New Details on Russia’s T-95 Tank Emerge

Check this out. These grainy images are supposedly pictures of the prototype of Russia’s T-95 tank which was to have been the basis for a 21st Century Russian armor fleet. Moscow is said to have scrapped funding for the tank last year yet still withheld most details of the behemoth. However, thanks to a tipster, DT has some speculative info on the beast.

From what I’ve been able to learn from a translated data sheet found on the website, Tankpower.

Apparently, the vehicle, which Russian defense officials apparently envisioned as a “fundamental leap forward” in Russian armor, features a completely automated turret with its 152-millimeter main gun being fed via autoloader, leaving the entire crew in the heavily armored front section of the tank’s hull, separated from the turret by blast walls. All of this is done in an effort to dramatically increase crew survivability in the event of an anti-tank round piercing the turret. It looks like the Ruskies were also working to protect the tanks weapons from being taken out easily; the gun’s auto-loader is set high above the turret’s floor to minimize the risk of being taken out by an anti-tank mine.  Fuel cells are also kept separate from the turret area in an effort to keep a round that penetrates the turret from igniting the tanks fuel.

The beast was also supposed to come with a digital information management system, showing the crew how many rounds of ammunition are left, fuel levels and the overall health of the tank. The T-95 was also supposed to be able to share information with other tanks in battlefield formations, kind of like the U.S.’ net-centric approach to fighting.

Here are some more images of the tank. Have additional details? Share em in the comments.

  • mrsachmo

    second image looks like a king tiger

  • Tim W

    I agree Cisco , and all these idiots bleating on about Russian gear its hilarious. The Pak 50 , Russian ecm ,Radar , Missiles, Subs , etc etc etc . 90 percent of their current equipment wouldn’t have stood a chance against Western forces in 1985 never mind now.

  • Lance

    Looks crappy with no sloped armor and looks bulky. But this is a BIG leap ahead of the crappy T-72 and its regurgitated version the T-90 which its combat performance has proven the T-72/90 is inferior to US and NATO tanks both same and even earlier generation tanks.

    If Russia wont produce this tank they should buy and field the T-84 tank for its newest and best tank divisions.

    • Stratege

      You are too much biased, sir.

      “Looks crappy with no sloped armor and looks bulky.”

      There’s no need for sloped armor. It should have been equipped with ‘heavy’ ERA armor – last gen ‘Relikt’ ot something newer.

      “But this is a BIG leap ahead of the crappy T-72 and its regurgitated version the T-90 which its combat performance has proven the T-72/90 is inferior to US and NATO tanks both same and even earlier generation tanks. ”

      Where it was proven to be true? Iraq had no real T-72 tanks. In 1980’s, most numerous NATO tank guns (105 mm) in Western Europe’s armored forces were not able to reliably penetrate frontal armor of Soviet made T-72 tanks.

      “If Russia wont produce this tank they should buy and field the T-84 tank for its newest and best tank divisions.”

      Ukrainian T-84 is based on old T-80 baseline. Russians had their own heavily redesigned T-80 based tank, the “Black Eagle” (“Omsk turret”), but it was rejected.

      • crackedlenses

        Tell that to the Israelis who were knocking out T-72s head on with 105 mm.-armed Merkavas……

        • Stratege

          Myth.
          Tank-tank battles with 105mm vs T-72 in Middle East were extremely rare.
          Merkava’s and T-72 had never faced each other in tank battles.
          Few Syrian T-72 were ambushed and destroyed by Israeli ATGMs, but not in tank to tank battle.

          • William C.

            The 105mm M833 DU APFSDS could probably penetrate the armor of the T-64B, T-72A, and T-80B at typical combat ranges. Yet the 120mm cannon would have been needed to deal with the next “generation” of Soviet tanks, those being the T-72B and T-80U.

            Older types of 105mm ammo could have dealt with the original T-72. Earlier models of the T-80 and T-64 also weren’t as heavily protected as their “B” versions.

          • Lance

            Sorry Staratgate

            But your mistaken

            The USMC and Israelis used M-60A1s and had destroyed over 400 T-55, and T-72 tanks in the tank battle south of Beirut in 1982 and easily killed T-72s.

            Sloped Armor has been vital in Tank design since WW2 the US M-1 and British Challenger and Russian T-80 all used sloped armor. Im just saying there will be damage in battle when modern APTDS rounds hit a non sloped tank.

          • Stratege

            Yeah, 105mm could PROBABLY penetrate the armor of early T-72 and T-80 armor. Without any guarantee.

      • brad

        I don’t quite understand why you would say that sloping armor is not needed. Sloping the armor on any tank by 30 degrees increases its effective defensive capability by 50 percent. To be fair to you however, the Japanese and Britain have incorporated non-sloping armor in some of their latest tank designs so there is precedent for your observation.

    • Bman

      Lance the russians make the T-80. It has so many problems with its engine and vulnerabilities that the Russian armies on internal reviews after the initial portion of the Chechen invasion was that the russian army should not procure any additional tanks that use turbine engines and that the T-72 was more suited for the current war. The russians have always designed world class equipment but built absolute garbage.

  • Lance

    Never undermined the Russians remember Hitler had the same thoughts in 1941!

    The T-80, AK-74 and MiG-29 are superb weapons and have proven a match to western equipment of the same caliber.

    • Thorolf

      Hitler got beaten by the Russian Winter, NOT the Russian equipment! The same thing happened to Napoleon!

  • I can spot one immediate problem; if the crew is physically separated from the gun assembly (a crew-in-hull design), then this tank is out of the fight if the autoloader fails.

    • blight

      Wasn’t that true of the standard autoloader configuration to begin with? Or could their autoloaders manual feed as backup?

      God knows, maybe manual loading is possible. There might be engineering solutions, but they’d require better information on the internals.

    • TROJANII

      Didn’t the Russians used to get caught up in the earlier autoloaders in the ’80’s? Maybe that is why they got them out of the turret.

  • chaos0xomega

    Its easy to say that their stuff is inferior when the ‘evidence’ you have to support your arguments is largely made up of testing done on export versions which were largely stripped down pieces o’ scrap. Russian gear – REAL Russian gear- is something that should not be underestimated (nor should it be grossly overestimated).

    • LtWashington,M

      Exactly. We have never faced the Red Army in battle. If we did…well, we all know what happens then. But the PAK FA, as well as the T-95 Black Eagle, represent something different, namely that Russia is becoming much more powerful. Furthermore, and most importantly, Russia now has the oil money to pay for expensive weapons. Not like we spend, but the fruits of their hypernationalistic and unregulated capitalism are being invested deeply into military modernization. Mainly because of the follies of the Bush misadministration, whose actions were taken as threats (they were) to Russia.

  • ForrestCantrell

    And is a 152 mm gun truly required? That means a lot of space for ammunition and a highly reliable and heavy duty autoloader.

  • Taffster

    Cast your minds back to WW2, Germans had some good tanks, but it was Russian quantity not quality which turned the tide.

  • Dean

    If autoloaders were a good idea, we would have had them long ago. I don’t care if connects with an iPod, electronics are usually more things that can break and take you out of the fight. The pictures certainly don’t suggest any advance in finding the optimal balance of armor, firepower and mobility.

  • MikeB

    Russian tank are normally very low profile. These pics do not fit the traditional pattern of Russian tanks. Given that they expect to fight in the same enviroments, it would surprise me that they would make that radical a change in profile. This would seem more like a technology demonstrator then a final configuration.

    • Stratege

      It’s early more likely prototype that dates to 90’s.

  • Annie Mauss

    This tank was cancelled by RF Deputy Defense Minister for Armaments Col. Gen. Popovkin on 08 April 2010.

    • Stratege

      Now they are working on “integrated combat platform” which will be partially based on Object 195’s research and technology.

  • Kiwiwalkabout

    FWIW, T-84 is a Ukrainian tank, so Russia wouldn’t buy because it only buys domestic. They’ve also not had any Tank Divisions since 2009.

  • S O

    This turret isn’t only not low profile as all Soviet/Russian post-KV2 tank turrets – it#s even looking like a SPAAG turret.

  • Stephen Russell

    Russian MilTech is that good?
    Why cant we modify some Abhrams tanks with those features:
    Autoloader
    Digital mapping etc
    & cocoon crew cab module?
    Like 2 see this new Abhrams 2 Tank model

  • Mike

    The T-34 was a good tank that could be cheaply and quickly made. No it was not the most advanced tank but it did the job. The German tanks were better but were complicated and hard to maintain. The T 95 looks like an attempt to be competetive with the modern equipment fielded by other powers. The 152 millimeter gun might have been chosen to insure a kill on the modern armor of the newest western tanks and be able to destroy future tanks. Maybe it was cancelled because it was to expensive or their technology couldn’t bring it off. Or maybe they decided that tanks wouldn’t be that important in the type of conflicts occuring in the future.

  • Gaston

    Autoloaders are notoriously unreliable. US vehicles have had digital maps for more than 10 years. If the crew is in the hull then any high mounted sensors will need to pass data through the turret bezel. Although this is done today using copper contacts, higher data rates lead to a fiber optic coupler and these are both high tech and high cost. Finally this looks like it has a flat belly profile, which isn’t the best thing when dealing with IED’s.

  • William C.

    Good to finally see some photos of the long awaited (and now canceled) T-95. I hope we get some higher quality ones soon.

    I wouldn’t want to face this thing on the battlefield. Yet it may not be well suited for Russia’s current needs. In the post Cold-War environment, the 152mm gun is simply overkill. Putting the entire crew in the hull may have also posed some situational awareness problems. To compensate it looks like there are all sorts of different optics and sensors on this thing, but the Russians have often lagged behind in this category compared to the West.

    • Stratege

      “To compensate it looks like there are all sorts of different optics and sensors on this thing, but the Russians have often lagged behind in this category compared to the West.”

      I don’t see major problem here. For example, years ago they got latest French infrared imaging technology for T-90S/T-90M tanks and now they developing and producing their own high-class thermal imaging systems.

  • rf3

    That is not T-95.

  • Stratege

    “I am not a strong believer in moving all the crew out of the turret and into the hull. How do you expect to fight your tank? With teleoperated cupola mounts?”

    The crew in their armored ‘capsule’ should get situation awareness and guidance from sensors, cameras, IR, from external sources in ‘network warfare’ environment (UAVs, helicopters, mobile SAM vehicles etc.).

    “Why does the Russian tank retain a turret if nobody’s in it? To store ammunition, presumably?”

    For significantly increasing the survival potential of tank on the battlefield.
    Anyway, the ammunition in ‘circular-type’ storage with large 152mm caliber munitions and autoloader surely requires ‘unmanned turret’ configuration.

    “The weight required to protect a seperate turret is probably inefficient compared to storing ammunition and fuel internally in a more heavily armored hull…”

    The weight of turret could be considerably reduced because there’s no crew members inside it, so there’s no need for heavily armored(or heavy-weight) and big turret. Saved weight could be used to improve armor of hull. It’s much smarter solution than ‘classic’ crew-in-turret configuration.

  • Stratege

    Here some publicity known and speculative facts about the T-95 tank program:

    – Tank weight is nearly ~55 tonnes. It’s larger and heavier than T-72/T-80/T-90 series but it have significantly less size(LBH) and weight compared to modern Western design (M1/Leo2/Leclerc etc.).

    – Maximum speed up to 80 kmh.

    – Crew(3) in armored capsule.

    – The ammunition storage, crew section(capsule), and fuel storage are separated from each other with armored walls. High survivability.

    – An unprecedented level of situational awareness for crew, net-centric integration

    – Auxiliary 30 mm automatic gun, two MGs

    – Munitions inside the hull in “circular-type” storage

    – Few types of munitions for main(152mm) gun:
    long range barrel-launched ATGMs;
    rounds with a DU penetrator;
    HE / antipersonnel rounds;
    barrel-launched SAM missiles (9M311 152mm SAM missile). It’s presumable that guidance for tank’s surface-to-air missiles could be provided by mobile SAM vehicles(which are radar equipped) in tank unit;
    – tactical nuclear munitions;

    -Titanium parts in construction of the tank (weight reduction)

    -New generation of active protection systems of both “soft kill” and “hard kill” types to protect tanks from various types of anti-tank weapons. Simply the successors of “Arena” and “Shtora” APS .

    – Advanced composite armor, built in ERA armor (last gen of ‘Relikt” or something newer)

    – 1500hp diesel engine

    • William C.

      Any sources for some of these claims? I mean a secondary 30mm autocannon, a gun-launched SAM, and tactical nuclear weapons for the main 152mm cannon? I’m pretty sure those would violate some sort of treaty.

      • William C.

        I mean the nukes would violate some treaty, not the other components.

      • asdf

        the us tanks had the nukes in the DS i think. 30mm cannon has been tried on the predecessor of the leclerc and was abandoned and a SAM in impossible or useless would be a better word.

      • Stratege

        “Any sources for some of these claims? I mean a secondary 30mm autocannon, a gun-launched SAM, ”

        Secondary autocannon and SAM missiles in armament of tank are coming from Russian official sources (translation of the article was available) that dates to 2010.

        “and tactical nuclear weapons for the main 152mm cannon? I’m pretty sure those would violate some sort of treaty. ”

        Nuclear munition is coming from rumors. But that’s possible and logical solution for 152mm. Treaty violations? Yes, but They can deploy nuke equipped tanks near the Chinese border (there are no any restrictions for tactical nuclear weapons).

    • blight

      Sounds like a Bolo to me…

      • alex

        It would have to have better anti-air for it to qualify for Bolo status, also better software. thoe there are some very impresive advances being made in that field.

  • So?

    It’s a testbed for the 152 mm gun.

    • Stratege

      No, it’s not. You can apparently see the hull of new design. However, the turret design looks unfinished or partially hidden.

  • ArmchairTanker

    It may be canceled, but I have to wonder if it wasn’t more research prototype than a pre-production model. Take the best ideas and systems you have, put them together and see how well they work. Take the lessons learned and put them into the real design.
    It’s a guess, but an unmanned turret would be designed to be a smaller target. If it isn’t designed for a crew, I have to wonder how easy it is to get those 152mm rounds into a tight turret. Any real tankers out there with thoughts about this?

  • asdf

    the turret is probably not teleoperated, but similar to what the other tanks have (visors, panoramic view etc), except that the crew sits in the hull. like the marder IFV, it too has an “unmanned” turret, but it’s still not a xbox-like telecontrol. the operators actually rotate with the turret and everything else is the same to a normal ifv.

  • Tim

    No chobham armour ? The Russian military

    leaders had sense to not bother with this pile of

    atypical junk.

    As the one of the above posters mentioned Russias

    GDP, shrinking and ageing population along with its size

    preclude it from ever being a global military super power.

    Back to anti-freeze Ivan

    • Stratege

      “No chobham armour ?”

      You mean composite armor?
      It’s Soviet invention that dates to early 1960’s (T-64)

  • Cato

    Remember reading about early Russian autoloaders grabbing a guy’s arm and feeding it into the breech. Lots of left-armed kids in soldiers and sailors homes. When the autoloader here fails, exactly who gets the task of crawling out from behind the blast walls for a little live fire maintenance? Maybe they could start buying the latest Merkava’s?

    • Stratege

      “Remember reading about early Russian autoloaders grabbing a guy’s arm and feeding it into the breech. Lots of left-armed kids in soldiers and sailors homes.”

      What tank? Any source?

      “When the autoloader here fails, exactly who gets the task of crawling out from behind the blast walls for a little live fire maintenance? ”

      I am always thought that autoloader are usually designed to be simple(as much it’s as possible) and reliable mechanism.

      “Maybe they could start buying the latest Merkava’s?””

      I think that Russian army is unlikely have an interest in limited mobile pillbox.

      • asdf

        I am always thought that autoloader are usually designed to be simple(as much it’s as possible) and reliable mechanism.

        yes, but they still have to have a secondary manual function in case the AL fails to perform. that also means that they have to be open to allow the operator to do it which means there is an increased risk of grabbing you by the sleeve or sth.

        and ALs are used on the newest gen of mobile artillery (Donar, the french gun on a truck and similar swedish gun), without any option to (swiftly) manually reload it, so i guess the reliability has gone up somewhat.

    • So?

      Tom Clancy is not a reliable source.

  • Clay Craig

    I thnik it is one of their new blow up tanks.

  • qual

    Thats looks a like an upgrade of the “2S25 Sprut-SD” (BMD-3 chassis with 125mm turret) – a light tank/assault gun mostly used by Russian airborne units.

    Maybe they’re looking for more HE, something learnt from the Caucasus Wars.

  • Darrel Kemble

    All the negative comments about the monster, may well be true, but how many times have all the “big thinkers” in the US Government “Under Estimated the Enemy”?
    The Germans laughed at the T34. Mr. Charles was small and uneducated.!!!

  • Sean

    Just a few points i’d like to make here.

    1) Dismissing Russian capabilities in weapons design is a dead give away that the dismisser is ignorant of the facts. The Russians have designed superb weapons in the past and will continue to do so. In A-Stan our troops deride the M-16 and M4 as unreliable and lacking stopping power and marvel at the ability of the AK-47 to shoot straight full of dirt and mud. Our troops have a dread respect for the RPGs that are simple, cheap and reliable in nominally trained hands. How old are those designs? mid 1950s?

  • Stogie

    Blight,
    The turret is required to aim the main gun. No turret makes the beast nothing more than a SP-gun from WWII. The only “battle” tank without a turret is a Swedish design (Stridsvagn 103) and it has minimal adjustment. You have to aim the tank to aim the gun.

    The biggest issue if this is a production type model, is the armor. Unless they are using something new that the West has never seen, the lack of armor slope makes this pretty weak. Part of the reason Soviet WWII tanks had some success, beyond production, was a steeper angle to the armor. I think these images are meant to mislead. I have a hard time thinking the Russians forgot everything from the past centuryof warfare.

    • Stratege

      Armor slope ??? We are no living in WW2 era anymore!
      Advanced composite armor and ERA would deal with incoming enemy rounds/missiles ten times better than any sloped steel armor.

      • LtWashington,M

        The real T-95 is very low slung, covered with ERA, and designed with maximum slope in the necessary locations. These photos are of some shitty old tank prototype.

  • Rob

    I thought it was the T-64 that had that problem. The ongoing joke was that it loaded the gunner’s leg .A source of singers for the Russian Army choir!

  • CavScout62

    There are 4 Tanks that are real, here, now and viable. M1, Merkevah, Challenger, Leopard. Any & Everything else is 2nd and we all know that 2nd is nothing more than 1st last or, dead. (Yes I know I left the French tank out but, it’s French!)

  • William C.

    The American counterpart to the T-95, the Block III main battle tank was canceled in the 1990s. I was disappointed when these programs were canceled and I’m sure many Russians are disappointed by the cancellation of the T-95. Yet the huge conflict between the USSR and NATO is never going to happen and that is a good thing.

    • blight

      What I find bizarre about Block III is how it was supposed to have all sorts of tidbits, but these never trickled, even for a cancelled program.

      “Each is composed of the engine, transmission, cooling system, air-handling system and final drive, all integrated into a compact package. The Cummins/Allison XAP-1000 is based on the advanced Cummins XAV-28 V-12 diesel, a low-heat rejection engine, which while not purely adiabatic, uses only oil coolant and has no water in the cooling system at all; it uses the energy of the higher temperature exhaust gasses to run an auxiliary power unit (APU). The General Electric/Textron Lycoming LV100 AIPS features self-cleaning inlet air filters, greatly reduced fuel consumption over the AGT-1500 and claims not to require a separate APU to power the vehicle’s electrical system.”

  • blight

    This is probably because IBA mitigates the impact of fighting against hordes of enemies with AK’s. Now that the plates are reliable stoppers of 7.62×39…

  • blight

    It’s hard to imagine any tank that is designed to survive in an environment with contested airspace. At least, short of putting a CIWS on top of a tank…

    The Merkava may be survivable, but it’s survivability modifications are designed with ground attack in mind. All modern tanks remain vulnerable to top-attack ATGMs and aircraft due to compromises in top armor to maximize avalable weight against ground attackers. It’s unlikely this paradigm will change for quite some time; though maybe in the future we will use modular drop-in turrets for a multi-threat environment or a ground-only threat environment.

  • Stratege

    Why dismiss mobile SAM systems which are usually being used along with tank units? Russians even tried to put SAM missiles into the tank(T-95) for additional protection from air threats.

  • Stratege

    Many flaws were fixed in late prototypes.
    It was canceled due to economical reasons.
    It was truly revolutionary top notch heavy tank for its time.

    • Joe Schmoe

      No.

      It failed because it was too cramped inside, gun ammunition took up too much space and was too heavy/large. It was based on many false promises that proved impossible in design.

      Don’t try and rewrite history

  • @#$%^

    Typical Russian bashing from the “US IS BEST F**K THE REST” bunch. You losers will never learn until a real war against contemporary Russian equipment comes. And then you scumbags will realise how wrong and brainwashed you were but then in will be WAY too late.

    • Paul

      I totally agree with you, that most of these fools are brain washed and have no idea just how bad they are. First the russians are not going to post nore will they let pictures be taken of a tank that they know will be an abrams killer, The Russians are not spending billions of tax payer dollars on machines of war for aggression like america. The political elites are stuck in a cold war mind set and are trying to start a war with any country that is not willing to kiss its ass.

  • JIM

    MAD DOG 22 A GOOD LOADER ON A M1 TANK CAN LOAD A SHELL EVERY 3 SECONDS . AUTO LOADERS YOU CAN KEEP THEM …

  • searchert

    If I was Putin I would make it mandatory for every russian woman that is not a drunken mess to spew as many babies as possible with gov’t help and also stop the drunken binge period. They will have no country left if they don’t start getting birth rate over death rate. As for us Americans we could use some of this same incentive as well. we have the wrong breeders breeding.

  • mac

    why did they scrap the turretless design? that’s what it’s supposed to follow if they want the entire crew inside the hull. imagine how much weight there is and power needed to traverse a turret with a 152mm gun.

    • Stratege

      It’s just an early prototype. The turret design is not final technical solution.

  • Spectre

    Most autoloaders are problematic at best and require a LOT of maintennance but, Russian autoloaders seem to be notoriously worse. Therefore, IF you removed the crew from the turret AND made the turret smaller, then the available internal turret space to safely remove a jammed round in the autoloader is at an absolute minimum. So, where do they get the thought that this is a good idea ? It IS hazardous at best and downright dangerous at the worst.
    The use of 152 mm rounds seems like the Russians are getting despairate for battlefield parity. At present, we can destroy their tanks with 120 mm ammunition while they cannot destroy allied tanks. Therefore they MUST increase the size of their ammunition or fall way behind the western powers. — Spectre —

    • Stratege

      “The use of 152 mm rounds seems like the Russians are getting despairate for battlefield parity. At present, we can destroy their tanks with 120 mm ammunition while they cannot destroy allied tanks. Therefore they MUST increase the size of their ammunition or fall way behind the western powers. — Spectre —”

      You have no clue what you talking about

      Russian 125 mm gun is good enough to destroy any modern MBT.

      152 mm gun was designed to be superior in firepower oven any Western or Chinese tank.

      • blight_

        Sure, but at what ranges? Do they have digital FCS like their western counterparts?

        At close ranges, with front-line Soviet gear instead of export-grade steel penetrators…maybe. I’m not sure a Soviet equivalent exists for the Abrams though. I know the T-72 and its Soviet equivalents superseded M48’s and M60’s and perhaps West German, French and British tanks.

        If you’re going with bigger bore rounds, it means you’re going the HE/HESH route, whereas Western tanks opt for sabots, where bigger bores don’t count as much. You can have more powerful propellant, stronger barrels and longer cases with more propellant.

  • godzillajet

    It might be possible that this tank overpowers the abrams but not the leopard 2.

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  • nil

    one day T-95 will be the member of Indian MBT family………. very soon. God luck.

  • Tanker john

    dont be too concerned about the 152mm gun, to achieve good anti-armour capability, you need massive breach pressures to achieve muzzle velocities needed to penetrate modern armour. This vehicle simply isnt stable enough to provide an accurate firig platform for the gun. At the moment, the 120mm is at the pinnacle of development, with the Challenger 2 hitting over 2500 metres per second, which would pass through the reactive armour before it had a chance to detonate. This is a re-hash of old soviet equipment, I go along with what the FIRST poster said 100%

  • Godagesil

    I just finished a book called Hitler Vs Stalin: Deathride, by Moiser, who like him or not, has a way of goring sacred cows. He’s done it with regard to the First World War and the Blitzkrieg myth, and now does it with the Ost Front. After reading the book, and taking it in light of the last 20 years I have to say, he is probably right. His thesis was no history based on anything coming out of the Soviet Union lie factory is reliable. Not the myth of the Soviets single handedly winning the war, their production numbers, the marginal contribution of Lend Lease or the superiority of Soviet arms. He cites the casualty figures where the Germans had a lopsided 1 to 7 advantage in KIA rates. The losses in armor were similar. He also highlights how production numbers could not support the Soviet losses, and comments by German commanders on US and British equipment in Soviet use. How many pictures of such equipment have you ever seen coming out of the Great Patriotic War propaganda mill?

  • godagesil

    He goes on to show how Soviet production numbers were wishful thinking just like their agricultural numbers. They were losing armor and men faster than they could be replaced. They turned draws into wins, buried defeats and turned withdrawals into winning offensives. He points out that most of what is accepted about Op. Citadel was based on the near fantasy written by aviation writer and author of the book Cybor aka 6 Million Dollar Man, Martin Caidin. His book “The Tigers are Burning” was basically a regurgitation of the Soviet line of it being a Heroic Triumph of Soviet Arms, when in fact, the offensive was called off on the verge of victory due to Allied landings in the Mediterranean. The string of Soviet victories had more to do with the withdrawal of the Luftwaffe to meet the growing bomber offensive in the West, the withdrawal of elite SS and Panzer units to N. Africa, Italy, and France and a corresponding reduction in combat power, than it did with Soviet martial prowess. The Soviets benefited by the continual drain on German combat power, especially what Moiser calls armored Super Units, those being the SS armored divisions which got a preponderance of new equipment.

  • godagesil

    The Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front still managed to dish out a lopsided tally of losses to the Soviets right up to their final defeat in Berlin. Moiser says the Soviets never recovered from the wounds inflicted by the Germans, some 27million deaths and like a gangrenous wound led to the ultimate death of the system in 1991. Most of these casualties were due to callous indifference of Stalin and his generals, who were all sycophants and lickspittles, else they would have all been executed. Hell, the Soviets executed an estimated 110,000 of their own men for such heinous acts as surrender or lack of patriotic zeal. That is the equivalent of 10, yes, count ’em, 10 US divisions. But I am sure those are chalked up to the Germans too. Stalin didn’t care about body counts. He murdered by starvation 10 million of his own countrymen in the 1930’s. What is 27 million in a fight for preserving his despotic state? My point is that the Soviets may have always been a bumbling paper giant.

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  • Robert Elkins

    Whether T95 or T whatever,. It matters not. There is no infrastructure for medical and other supplies to keep the Russian army on the ground. They still need wheat from Canada and the U.S. to feed the populace. If Russia would start a war of sorts, the U.S. would have to feed them. Rail roads are a mess in that nation, and to move supplies would be a horrendous nightmare. Forget the thing. Pass the vodka komrad, tomorrow we die.

  • MontyB

    Oh gosh! With a comment such as that what bets your American?

  • Pieter

    The name T-95 has been placed on every “new tank” from Russia since 1992. It is likely a testbed for new technology. Just look at Russia’s openness on the new Sukhoi aircraft. About auto-loaders being unreliable, it is just something that has to be developed just like the auto-loaders for infantry weapons. If that was not possible we would not have M-16’s and AK-47’s but still use bore-loaders. Most tank commanders (in the rank of general’s and colonel’s) are very conservative and prefer to stay with manual loading.

  • Alex

    I can only laugh at those that are already condemning the Russian new tank without even have seen it in real life. Assuming that it would be outperformed by the US counterparts… Why would the biggest country in the world have a product that performs about 70% of what the US tanks twenty years a go did… It is pretty unrealistic. If so even Putin would have voted to buy a fleet of Leopard 2’s.. But he hasn’t . Hence I assume he has some more under his sleeve. Just wait and see. He ain’t that stupid..

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  • Paul

    All of you need to remember one thing, the russians got very very little help against the germans, and manage to kick their ever loving ass. Go ruskies!