Iranian Navy to Patrol off U.S. Coast, What!?

Well, this is interesting. After recently sending its ships through the Suez Canal for the first time in decades, the Iranian Navy will apparently send ships to establish a “powerful presence” off the East Coast of the United States.

Here’s CNN quoting Iran’s state-run Islamic Republic News Agency:

“Commander of the Navy of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran broke the news about the plans for the presence of this force in the Atlantic Ocean and said that the same way that the world arrogant power is present near our marine borders, we, with the help of our sailors who follow the concept of the supreme jurisprudence, shall also establish a powerful presence near the marine borders of the United States,” the story said. The reference to the “world arrogant power” was presumably intended to refer to the United States.

No word on what type of ships Iran will send to establish this “powerful force.” Keep in mind, that this light frigate known as the Jamaran, is one of Iran’s most modern and powerful ships. It carries four Noor class anti-ship missiles with a range of about 125-miles along with four SM-1 anti-aircraft missiles, light torpedoes and a 76 mm gun. Not exactly an Aegis destroyer.

  • Yep

    Man they are trying to start some shit.

    • justsaying

      Doesn’t the U.S. do this on a daily basis to other countries? I can hear some Iranian saying the same thing about America.

      • STemplar

        Yes, we do, with enemies. That’s how geo politics work.

        • Frivolac

          So if Iran is our enemy, it makes perfect sense for them to patrol U.S. coastal areas, by your logic. Is it trying to start **** or just geopolitics? Plus you get upvotes for agreeing with a sentiment that got downvoted. Land of the free is the home of partisan hivemind

          • PMI

            Explaining that the US Navy does in fact show the flag around the world has nothing to do with agreeing with the sentiment given in the first post.

          • STemplar

            I wouldn’t say it makes perfect sense for them to overtly send forces to US shores. They clearly have no logistic capability to support the effort properly and are just engaging in some kind of PR stunt non sense. You are engaging in the same simple minded moral relativistic non sense some of the other Iranian apologists here are doing. This isn’t about right and wrong or justification for actions or any of that simple mindedness. This is about how we counter a nation that has cast itself in an adversarial threatening role to the US and our interests and allies.

          • warnsppl

            you have some blindness, its not your fault though, for the most part anyways. DO NOT BELIEVE FOR A SECOND, that iran doesnt have the capabilities or “logistics” to send their navy here. What you are doing is buying a ticket to the governments bullshit show without knowing any of the actual going ons backstage. I promise you one thing, soon as we rap up the iraq/afghanistan conflicts (maybe even before) we are headed straight into merciless war with both iran and venezuela, probably more but its impossible to tell for sure who else will join them againts us at this time. We’ll know soon enough though.

          • @omgitsarpg

            yeah and guess who will join us? about half the damn world. everyone hates iran. did you know numerous arabic countries gave us permission to use their runways if we were on a raid to bomb iran? the people i see joning iran are pakistan, china (only real threat IMO)/ N korea. who i see joining america, UK, Germany, most arabic countries (as stated before), austrailia (help us in most wars), Ireland, Israel (most iran sympathizers are anti Semites), Canada, France, Japan, S korea, New zealand, maybe russia but they might join iran. so dont act as if we go to war (keyword if) the world will be against us because we are americans. not everyone hates us, only a few and those few also complain that we dont help them or someone else fast enough. but hey, lets hope we avoid war.

      • elmondohummus

        Yes, the US does. It’s called protecting the shipping lanes that supply America, Europe, etc… basically the entire world. Remember when Iran mined the Gulf back in 1988? And also when they lined the straights with Silkworm missiles?

        If you can come up with a US analogue for those actions in the Atlantic, please tell. Last I saw, the US didn’t mine the Atlantic, and they sure as hell haven’t deployed antiship missiles all along the shipping lanes. Unless you count carriers in transit to areas of operation as such.

        Anyway, the point is that if the US were threatening Iranian shipping in the Atlantic, I could see the purpose of deploying Iranian forces there. In the absense of that, this is nothing more than an attempt by Iran to thumb their nose at the world.

        • warnsppl

          Dont be so quick to point the finger at some other country, this aint iran thumbing their nose at the world. Its about iran trying to show the u.s. that they are not afraid of the big bad bully, thats been pushing around the whole world far too long. The U.S. is provoking this 100%. Especially by obama shipping subterranean bunker bombs to israel recently just like bush did, then they threaten iran to cooperate or else. Why dont you call/write obama and tell him to stop giving other countries bombs to provoke war on our behalf?

    • Master&Commander

      It’s really simple, let them go on port in NYC or Boston and have fun. The “Supreme Jurisprudence” like Russia in the Cold War is actually more scared of American Culture than they are our Military. I’m sure you’ll get a bunch of Iranians who want to be Americans. We’ve already won this fight, merely with a couple of port calls.

      • Delia

        We get one Iranian ship for FREE. Operation Red October and all we have to do is show them a good time on port. We have a bunch of young female case officers from the CIA just milling about at home, why don’t we use them for honey trap operations and really mess Iran up!.

        • SJE

          Yep, and be sure to keep the cameras rolling just in case.

          • RealDeal

            Iran isn’t UBL and Al-Qaeda, it’s a country trying to make something of itself–it’s a rational entity with very real interests we can leverage. So the above are very good ideas.

    • Steven R.

      Lock and Load
      Fire for Effect :)

    • Roland

      This could probably one of the ships they are going to send us.

    • Faz

      Like the states never start anything?

  • Black Owl

    Right now I cannot hear, but I can sense a few hundred USN attack submarine officers laughing their faces off as they polish their MK48’s ADCAPs.

    • Nick. T

      That was my first thought. Probably the most interesting thing the seawolves will be raking their teeth on in a while.

    • orly?

      I hope they all decide to all pop up simutaneously around them, preferably with Old Glory flying with the wind.

      That would be a seriously good photo op!

    • GreensboroVet

      Black Owl. One MK48 ADCAP costs more than the target. Just send a prediator, drop one or two SDBs and call it a day of live training.

      • Black Owl

        I’d prefer the MK48 ADCAP be used. It would terrify the hell out of them much more than a predator.

    • barney

      Amen!When the first shot is fired in the Gulf of Oman, US Divers will be gien another artificial reef on which to dive!

  • Sev

    I hope they cross the defense line and we sink their toy boats

    • TLAM Strike

      What defense line? Unless they commit some kind of hostile act or break US laws in US territory they could sail in to Boston Harbor and we can’t do much about it except charge them port fees.

      • STemplar

        Ummm, no. “Innocent passage” is allowed through territorial waters. We most certainly could order an armed naval vessel of a hostile foreign power to exit our territorial waters and we certainly can prohibit any ship we like of docking at one of our ports. We would be well within maritime law if the Iranians made a bee line towards Boston Harbor to tell them to turn around and barring all other reasonable efforts if they refused, sink them.

        • TLAM Strike

          Article 14 of the Convention on the Territorial Sea and the Contiguous Zone. Makes no distinction on Innocent Passage between Warships and Merchantmen.

          • STemplar

            I already said that actually if you read what I wrote. I said they are allowed innocent passage. An armed naval vessel moving towards a friendly port is not innocent passage. Further a harbor master can bar any ship they like from docking. So again, your statement above is incorrect.

          • Tim

            Not sure if the U.S. Senate actually ratified that sea convention either, so in any cases and as you mentioned, no armed naval vessel of any countries without the authorization of the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard could be allowed to freely move through our waters.

      • Black Owl

        Then we’ll charge the shit out of them.

    • jhm

      what a waste of a good harpoon missile, betcha the ship will sink in the atlantic :)

    • vince

      me too

    • Faz

      No soldiers no wars. Think about it. Send the politians & the banks to fight.

      • @omgitsarpg

        lol. just imagine a bunch of old farts having wrestling matches to solve problems.

    • Russ Mcgarry

      arrogance yep this is the only country never to have dropped bombs on another country you arrogant cock

  • Mark Pyruz

    This is at least the second time IRIN has been voicing intent to venture into Atlantic waters. With this latest clue, the voyage appears planned to transit the Suez and Gibrater, with the likely destination of Cuba.

    My guess it would involve IRINS Kharg (AORH 431) and an Alvand class (or Mowj class) frigate.

    Mark Pyruz

    • TLAM Strike

      Could send a Kilo as well. The Kilo has greater range than the Alvand/Mowj class, although its slower.

    • Mick

      I was thinking Venezuela, but Cuba is also an option as a destination.

  • scrain

    We just need to let the iranian Captain and crew that any defectors from them will be welcomed with open arms, similar to what we did to the Iraqi Army OIF 1 and Desert Storm. Hey, we would even get a free boat out of it

    • RunningBear

      Donate the free boat to Iraq!

    • kim

      Nah, the crew we can take in, but the ship still belongs to Iran.

      • blight

        It’s collateral for the embassy. We want it back someday.

    • Ron

      Bad idea, since Iran would just do what the Soviets did: throw their families in prison.

  • David

    I’ll believe it when I see it. Until then, I see this as clearly just a message intended for their own internal audience and maybe for some of their minor-player cheerleaders such as Syria and Venezuela.

  • SJE

    The Iranians are just trying to get a rise out of us: its all theatre meant to boost the power of the regime back in Iran. They want us to over-react. If we say nothing, and do nothing, they loose their power.

    What would be interesting, and very ballsy, is to INVITE them to visit a US port to show that we have nothing to fear from Iran. We would get all the intel we need on their latest ship, totally mess with the leadership’s narrative, and hang all sorts of placards near by. Yes, they could launch a weapon…but do you really think that they would?

    • SJE

      Wow, I thought I’d get slammed for my idea! Just for grins, we should invite Iran to New Orleans during Mardi Gras and see the great satan having a good time.

    • Nadnerbus

      I actually thought more or less along the same lines. This is a propaganda/PR move, not a military move, so meet it with our own PR. Some low level Pentagon type (no need to give them more prestige by getting senior politicians involved) should issue a statement that the freedom of the seas is a right that the US and all nations work towards, and that they welcome the Iranian Navy to join that community. The right does require responsibilities, and the US Navy would love to help the Iranian Navy develop those responsibilities and skills. There is a small pirate problem off the horn of Africa if they would like to contribute.

      A freak out or talk of retaliation would just play into the Mullahs hands.

      • BigRick

        that’s a great idea :-)

    • rick james

      what if you let the ship dock and thats the plan of the Iranians to detonate a dirty bomb??? let the American spies on board and then booom there east coast is uninhabitable. i see lots of idiots whit out the glimpse of security posting here.

      • Thomas L. Nielsen

        “what if you let the ship dock and thats the plan of the Iranians to detonate a dirty bomb???”

        For the Iranians to do that wouldn’t even make crazy sense. Such an attack would lack any deniability, and would result in Iran being turned into radioactive slag poste haste.

        If Iran really wanted to attack the US with a radiological weapon (or a nuke, or a biochemical weapon), they’d smuggle it across the border, detonate it, and then sit back and let everyone blame Al Qaeda.

        So much for the “idiots whit out the glimpse of security”….

        Regards & all,

        Thomas L. Nielsen

        • Robert Fritts

          Actually with our current President do you believe we would nuke anyone? No way it would happen. He would go on TV, address the nation, telling the public not to over react be cause we are all Islamo-phobic rednecks.

          • Thomas L. Nielsen

            If that “anyone” had just detonated a radiological device (which, by the way, would have to be the size of the entire ship to render the entire East Coast uninhabitable) then yes, I consider a nuclear response to be at the very least probable enough to be a deterrent.

            Also, even if Iran was convinced that the US would never in fact launch a nuclear strike, attacking continental US with a lone Iranian ship still makes no sense. The current president or not, a severe US military response would certainly follow.

            Regards & all,

            Thomas L. Nielsen

      • RealDeal

        Iran isn’t UBL and Al-Qaeda, it’s a country trying to make something of itself–it’s a rational entity with very real interests we can leverage.

    • RDF

      Would it be “over-reacting” if we just laughed our butts off at them? I have to wonder how these mill-pond sailors would handle the North Atlantic in winter. Ought to be fun to see.

      Retired Atlantic Fleet destroyer sailor here.

  • jamesb

    SJE is right……

    I’m sure that tagging along underneath the Iran’s is a Los Angles with targeting solution regularly upgraded….

    Operating thousand of miles from your home port makes you VERY exposed…..

  • jrltjh

    we’ll “disappear” it in the bermuda triangle.

  • Musson1

    How do you sink an Iranian Naval Vessel?

    Put it in water.

    • UCJN

      how to sink it faster?
      put it in US waters

      • John Demell

        Now thats a good one!!!! Lol ha haha

    • political_observer

      With termites

  • JE McKellar

    Can anyone explain the SM-1 missiles on the Iranian frigate?

    • blight

      Iran Contra? Or Shah-era?

      For the latter, it was brave patriots giving arms to Muslim radicals under orders from Ronald Reagan, Republican superhero. For the Shah, it was a decision made in the ’50s to impose the Shah over a nationalist like Mossadegh who threatened BP’s oil position in Iran…something about natural resources “for the people”, which although present in our founding documents became associated with Bolshevism.

      • major.rod

        Mossadegh – The guy that was allied with the party that murdered the previous PM (who he pardoned), was allied with the Tudeh (Iranian communists) and outlawed anonymous voting when he felt he would lose the next election (after ruling for two years under emergency decrees)?

        The facts are always inconvenient.

        BTW, Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro were also “nationalists”.

      • crackedlenses

        Considering who replaced the Shah, I’m kinda wish he had stayed in power…..

    • PMI

      Iran acquired them in the early 70’s with the USS Zellars (Babr) & USS Stormes (Palang), Allen M. Sumner class destroyers.

    • TLAM Strike

      Iran operated two ex-USN Allen M. Sumner class destroyers the Zellars and Stormes as the Babr and Palang. They were equipped with six ABL type launchers for the SM-1/MR Missile.

  • ranks

    America has become a paper tiger, by stretching ourselves too thin and by having a generation of fat, video game playing kids that are not fit enough for combat. They dont have to do push ups anymore, because they cannot, yes too FAT. Make fun of Iran, but it is us with our government devided, and a nation that is flat broke, that is vulnarable. Maybe Apple Corp, will defend us.

    • Kool

      you dont sound american, you totally sound like a chinese lmao, “paper tiger”,

      • joe

        Actually, the chinese version is “straw dogs”, I think.

    • crackedlenses

      I dare you to insult some of our troops and see how fat and vulnerable they are….

    • political_observer

      Do not be so hard on the children you might give them complex, after all everyone is a star or a legend in their own mind. This is the millinilum generation you are talking about now with the helicopter parents. They deserve to walk right into job that has a corner office, free coffee every day, free breakfast once a week, special event once a month and a Christmas Party and on and on…………………….

  • blight

    Maybe we should escort them to Jersey. Show them a good time in Atlantic City. Hah!

    • STemplar

      I bet half the crew would go AWOL……

    • m167a1

      Actually thats the best post so far.

  • Brian

    Where are they planning on buying fuel?

  • morris wise

    Wind driven yachts with a cruise missle in their hold are causing modern naval ships to become obsolete.

  • @Earlydawn

    Simple answer. Welcome them to camp outside our territorial waters and waste money. Replace the term “ship” with “future reef” in any official communications.

  • STemplar

    Not to mention kids that can’t spell…..I’m not sure how push ups do you much good in a naval battle. I’d rather have an Arleigh Burke filled with 150 tubby computer nerds that have vetted themselves on Xbox than 150 jocks with 4% body fat who like to look in the mirror a lot.

  • STemplar

    How about as soon as they clear the Gulf we shadow them with a sub and randomly ping them once a day for the whole voyage? That would be one edgy ship of nutters by the time that trip was over.

    • Disgusted Guest

      STemplar, would you be ok if Iran did that to our ships while in the Gulf? Or are we approaching “double standard”…?

      • STemplar

        Now you are engaging in moral relativism. You’re attempting to attain some level of righteousness that is non sense. If Iran doesn’t like being treated like an adversary, stop acting like one. If it wants to keep funding extremists and smuggling arms and thumbing its nose at international law, then boo hoo. This isn’t some issue of right or wrong or whatever. Iran is picking a fight, we are obliging them. They don’t like it, stop being idiots.

      • STemplar

        You really need to look up moral relativism. It’s considered a non thinking mans debating method. You are seeking to gain some high ground in some kind of moral superiority contest which only highlights the fact you are a troll and not terribly astute. This isn’t about what is “ok” this is about how the US treats a nation that seeks to cast itself in the role of a hostile power, antagonist nation, enemy, use whatever adjectives or nouns you like, it’s all pointless semantics. The Iranians are being treated exactly how I would expect any nation that are enemies of the US to be treated. There is no double standard. It the Iranians would like to try and ping US warships they can go right ahead. They may not like the response they get. If they don’t like how the US treats them, they could try not provoking essentially the entire international community.

        • rick james

          Iran is only hostile towards America because Israel constantly threatens them with war. get your head out of your ass… ohh and don’t come with the bull shit that Iran said they will wipe Israel of the map. Iran said that this regime has to be dealt with once and for all. This was an answer to Netenyahu stating that he will bomb Iran 2 weeks prior. The media added the wipe Israel of the map crap.

          • Nathan Alan Speegle

            Israel threatens them with war..god you are an idiot. when someone’s leader comes out and says they want to nuke your country, would you sit there and twiddle your thumbs. probably, because you are an idiot. i have read all of yours and disgusted guests comments and i have to say you both are the most misinformed people on the face of this earth.

          • STemplar

            Non sense. Israel hasn’t armed a terrorist NGO on their border that lobs mortars and rockets randomly into their civilian population centers. You’re also engaging in nonsensical semantics. The intent of a statement like they need to be dealt with once and for all is clear enough. In regards to the translation bruhaha, quite frankly I’ve read arguments back and forth. I don’t speak Persian so I have no idea, but based on the previous hate and venom that has flowed out of that pig Ahmadinejad I have no doubt about the intent behind it regardless of the exact quote.

        • Disgusted Guest

          “You are seeking to gain some high ground in some kind of moral superiority contest which only highlights the fact you are a troll”

          No, the definition of a troll is not mearly someone who disagrees with you. I am after no moral high ground, or superiority … i’m just trying to avoid more pointless wars, that are seemingly supported by the posters on this site.

          “This isn’t about what is “ok” this is about how the US treats a nation that seeks to cast itself in the role of a hostile power, antagonist nation, enemy. . . . .”

          Iran casts itself as a hostile power?! How so? By building defense, and saying they have no plans of using their military for offensive purposes, only defensive? By saying “if Americans will patrol our waters, we will patrol theirs”? Iran is not a violent imperialistic, world policing nation … I think you got your countries crossed!

          • STemplar

            You aren’t trying to avoid wars, you are defending a bunch of sociopathic tyrants that engage in crimes against humanity, are racists, and arm radical Islamic terrorist groups that murder thousands of innocent civilians annually on purpose. You could post about the folly of engaging in another war without defending the likes of Iran so don’t try and deflect your intent here primarily is to defend the indefensible of regimes like the Iranians.

            You are seeking some kind of moral high ground because you are trying to justify behavior in some tit for tat fashion. You aren’t discussing specifics you are just spouting unsupported non sense. “Iran isn’t hostile” “Iran hasn’t attacked the US”. That’s all garbage. Many here have posted specifics acts and behaviors they Iranian regime has engaged in continually and you can’t refute any of it. I’m not goign to re-post it all. You’re clearly simply trying to hide your defense of a totalitarian group of racist thugs in some cloak of peace loving which is just baloney.

          • Disgusted Guest

            So a bunch of posters have proven that the Iranians have attacked the U.S.? Israeli’s blew up one of our ships … does this mean Israel is also “hostile” and that they have “attacked the US”? No, obviously it does not. Show me where Iran has invaded another country? In the 80’s Iran was defending against Iraq (who we armed for the conflict, BTW) … Iran was defending it’s borders. Iran has never once invaded another country … however the U.S. has invaded SEVERAL. By your definition, the U.S. is “hostile”. Seriously man, I know you keep trying to push off my comments as being an attempt to gain “moral high ground”, but get real … if you want to refute my claims … why not show me what country the Iranians have invaded?

          • STemplar

            Not having a credible ability to project power does not make them nominees for the Nobel laureate.

          • STemplar

            You’re twisting statements to support your relativistic BS. I don’t need to show anyone invaded someone to establish hostile intent. Mining the Straits of Hormuz shows hostile intent. Firing on American warships shows hostile intent. Firing on US flagged vessels shows hostile intent. Funding terror groups that have bombed US personnel shows hostile intent. Seeking to build atomic weapons and ballistic delivery systems that currently range parts of Europe shows hostile intent. The USSR never invaded the US, they were an enemy. Nazi Germany never invaded the US, they were an enemy. Other than your unsupported statements you have provided zero proof of Iran’s benevolent nature, not one shred of any sort of tangible measurable demonstrative evidence of this peace loving attitude the Iranian regime has that you claim. I’ve paraphrased some of the numerous facts people have pointed out that tear your position and attitude to pieces, how about you try proving something.

          • Disgusted Guest

            By your definition of “hostile intent”. America has “hostile intent”. Do you at least admit that? Or is it just Iran that has hostile intent, and America is innocent?

            Also, for proof feel free to read/listen to the Iranian leaders speeches, and interviews. He has no intent of attacking anyone. Nor is there any evidence that he does.

            I think the fact that Iran has never invaded another country is proof that they are not violent in nature. It’s amazing that you don’t see this as proof. The USSR invaded other countries; so did Germany … Iran HAS NOT! (the only wars they’ve fought in were completely defensive in nature … defending their own country is hardly “hostile intent”)

          • STemplar

            I actually don’t have to prove anything, you do, you haven’t provided any.

          • Disgusted Guest

            That war started with Iraq invading Iran. Learn you’re history. Who was the agressor in that conflict? Do you really think it was started by Iran invading Iraq? TRY AGAIN!

        • Disgusted Guest

          “It the Iranians would like to try and ping US warships they can go right ahead. They may not like the response they get.”

          Ok, so if Iranians ping our ships, and our response is firing back … then who started it? Now, take the opposite … if we ping Iranian ships, and they fire at us … who would have started that? If you’re answers are consistant (i.e. one of the answers is Iran and the other is the U.S. … no matter which one), then there is no double standard on your part.

          • STemplar

            There is no double standard, you are absolutely one of the densest human beings I’ve ever tried to explain a simple concept to. Iran is an enemy of the United States. We counter enemy activity. We harass potential threats and let potential enemies know what sort of capability we have as a means of deterrence. I don’t care if they ping us, and I think we should ping them. If they wish to elevate it to firing at one another go right ahead. This isn’t about double standards or right and wrong, this is about what steps and actions to take to deter an enemy military force. That’s all. Get it? I don’t care what the Iranians do, I only care about how we counter them. Is that simple enough, I mean there is no crayon button on these forums.

      • orly?

        They put their patrol boats on collision courses with GIGANTIC US warships all the time, “lose” radio communication, and then at the last second say “Hey didn’t see you there.”

        Its been documented for along time now.

    • lol

      Throw in some random low level passes by a bunch of ANG units. Probably breaks up some of the old routine.

      It’s just a shame that some P-3 crew is going to have to slowly track them the entire time.

  • NeilAKANeil

    I mean, is there anyone who doesn’t already know how this will end?

    • SJE

      Do you really? tell us. I have no idea.

      If the Iranian ship tries to attack the USA, it will be sunk within minutes. In fact, if we thought it was a credible threat, it would have been sunk already.

      But that is not what it is there for. It is there to piss us off. So, it will be a cat and mouse of what they do, and how we respond.

  • Lance

    Good it’ll give Navy F-18 pilots target practice near home. sink those Iranian trash of the sea.

    • fester

      You do know that is an act of war, and more importantly an act of profound stupidity. One of the long standing tenets of US foreign policy if free navigation of the world’s oceans excluding narrowly defined territorial waters. Sinking ships of nations that we are at peace with in international waters blows that position out of the water….

      • Lance

        Sorry Iran dose not need to harass US ships off US shores and its about time to take out the Islamic government of Iran.

  • bubba birner

    Is the U.S. president stupid or just ignorant. They are nuclear islamic people. Their religion tells them to kill the non believers. America is know as a christian nation. So if they shoot where is it going. Its great they have a navy but i say we sink it before they can hit the U.S. As it is obama has given all of our wheat reserves to other countries. Hopefully we dont have an epidemic or they dont send over a dirty bomb. If so were screwed.

    • Disgusted Guest

      Yeah Bubba! Why not bomb the entire Middle East and Africa!

      OR, we could do something unprecidented, like PROMOTE PEACE!


      • Non Hippie


        • Disgusted Guest

          Right … he who wants peace is a hippy. Suppose i’ll go find a tree to hug.

          • crackedlenses

            Peace through killing people who want to kill you before they get the chance…..

      • Catamount

        Sounds like a good idea to me….And let Bomb them back to the stone age..oh wait they are already there…

    • SJE

      Terrorists can already cause havoc in the USA. Part of the reason they don’t is (a) US intel, but part of it is (b) that their state sponsors don’t want to piss off the USA and international community. Take away (b), and you have a lot more problems

      For example, North Korea is restrained by China. Iran is restrained by wanting to be seen as the center of Persian and Shia culture, which spreads a long way, and by fear that over-reacting will play into the hands of the Sunni monarchies who want a reason to attack.

    • Riceball

      Why bother, the best they can possibly send is a small frigate with only a few AA missiles, not much of a threat. If, and that’s a big if, they actually manage to sail to our side of the pond you can guarantee that they will have a silent & unseen escort below them as soon as they enter the Atlantic. On top of that you can be damned sure that our satellites will be watching them long before that and after a while we’ll probably have ISR aircraft up in the watching & listening an they minute they fire up their fire control radars at any nearby aircraft, civilian or military, they’re risking a Mk. 48 ADCAP up their rears.

    • roland

      I am more scared of the Iranian presidents mental health than its navy. He is blazing MAD!!!

  • Brian Black

    I expect that when exhausted tubby finds himself trying to hammer plugs into into the holes of his locked and quickly flooding compartment, he might begin to wish he’d done a few push ups once in a while.

    And when an anti ship missile hits, will that fat nerd be able to drag his own fat ass up through two or three decks to save his own life, let alone bring his wounded ship mate out with him?

    • STemplar

      Things have gone pretty poorly in your navy. I’d rather be in the one winning.

    • traindodger

      I’m fat, and I’m nerdy. That doesn’t stop me from doing a hundred-meter dash in less than fifteen seconds, or going up ten flights of stairs without breaking a sweat. It’s the muscle underneath the fat that counts.

      • john moore

        ? is how many 100 meter dashes could you do b4 your heart gives out 1-2 maybe 3? Fat is gross

    • SJE

      I agree that we should have a fit force. Stuff happens, and fitness and strength counts. At the same time, one fat guy launching an advanced weapon can sink a ship staffed entirely by Olympic athletes.

  • jake

    One in 4 Americans are “fat”…. I havent seen a fat marine before nor have i seen a fat seaman. I honestly think people dont think before they say, but hey if it makes you feel better to diss on the navy go for it. I mean when ” tubby” blows those towel heads out of the water we’ll see who’s dishin out the insults. :p

    • SJE

      Yep. The Iranian navy could have the entire thing manned by Olympic level athletes, but it won’t protect them against advanced technology.

      • blight

        Tech is what kept primordial humans from being overmatched by animals with scales, carapaces and claws. Even if primordial man was as strong as chimpanzees (which can tear modern men limb from limb), tech allowed humans to fight from a better-than-fair position.

        Kind of like HG Well’s Landship story, now that I think about it.

        • nielsenkc

          Some chiefs in the navy are fat… lol navy humor

  • RunningBear

    In a “Pigs Eye”!!

  • Kski

    Live fire exercise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! An we don’t have to pay for the targets, double awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • randy

    “Kids, this is your brain on drugs”!

  • George Gauthier

    It may not be an Aegis destroyer, but the Iranian frigate would make short work of our puny Littoral Combat Ships or one of those LPDs of the misbegotten San Antonio class.

    • PMI

      So a frigate is a stronger surface combatant than an LPD? Brilliant analysis.

    • Tim

      Yeah right. The LCS will dance around this thing and then smoke it for dinner.

    • TMB

      George, you are aware that the San Antonio isn’t even meant to fight other ships, right? You’d be just as justified complaining that the C-17 is no match for the MiG-29.

  • Bill C.

    Iran is probably blowing smoke but if they do make the trip I hope our subs tail them. If Iran moves one inch into our waters sink them, they have a history of suicide missions.

    • rick

      based on your statement iran has the right to fire at the entire us and Canadian fleet in the persian gulf since they have to cross the straight of Hormuz to get there and the straight is all Iranian waters.

      • STemplar

        Incorrect, the Strait is over 20 miles wide at it’s narrowest point so it is all not in Iranian waters. You are incorrect. -1 for geography failure.

  • Harry J. Hoover

    The only time to kill something is when you’re afraid of it,no fear,no threat,no problem! Of course there is always the sport aspect.

  • Steven R.

    Lock and Load Boys
    Fire for Effect :)

  • paperpushermj

    I not overly confident they could find the United States.

    • nielsenkc

      that just made my day..

  • Mastro

    Hilarious if they try in November and hit a nice North Atlantic Perfect Storm.

    The don’t like to be buried at sea, do they?

  • Ronnie

    They plan to lob a nuke into the East Coat if they are attacked in Iran. These nuts deny the holocaust and want to kill another six million Israelis. So be prepared for a nuke or biological weapons, on the US main land…they have the Scuds.
    Have these ships been fitted out with them?

    • Thomas L. Nielsen

      “…they have the Scuds. Have these ships been fitted out with them?”

      Just checking here, you understand: What do you actually know about
      a) The size and mass of a Scud missile?
      b) The amount of infrastructure needed to launch one?
      c) The work needed to integrate a) and b) on a ship?

      Oh, and please also provide a source for your statement that “They plan to lob a nuke into the East Coat if they are attacked in Iran”. Or, for that matter, that Iran even has a nuke to lob in the first place.

      Regards & all,

      Thomas L. Nielsen

      • Ronnie

        They fire um off the back of trucks. They flew planes into the twin towers ..aimed for three mile island . Youall have a happy day now in lala land

        • Thomas L. Nielsen

          Sorry, but you lost me there.

          How does firing a SCUD off of a (LARGE) truck, one that was designed for the purpose, and the SEP11 attacks have anything to do with the technological challenges inherent in integrating a SCUD on a naval vessel. I’m genuinely curious….

          Regards & all,

          Thomas L. Nielsen

          • blight

            Ronnie’s definitely lost his marbles.

            You don’t need a Scud to fire a nuke. Soviets made some perfectly good ship-launchable cruise missiles with nuclear payloads…and if you have a BM to fire them, then you need serious engineering modifications to your ships to deploy them, which would be done in a shipyard that the NRO would probably catch. Hard to hide the TEL transporting a giant Shahab to an Iranian Navy port and loading it aboard a ship for launch. Even harder would be a magical ship with sliding parts capable of hiding a gigantic Scud from being seen.

            And this still assumes that Iran has nukes. They don’t. Even if they success in enriching weapons grade materials, it’s still a stretch to design a proper nuclear weapon. I’m not sure if the Iranian people are on board with the idea of becoming a nuclear weapons power, since they are still raised on the Big Brother ideal that Iran has no interest in being a bloodthirsty killmachine like Crusader America, and only interests in peaceful nuclear power. When you go beyond your mandate and suddenly announce a crash nuclear missile program, it’s bound to make people (even highly-ranked ones) concerned.

            We’ve always assumed that the ayatollahs who run the country were in uniform agreement with Ahmadinejad, but more than once they’ve clashed. We don’t know for sure just what Ahmadinejad wants seprately from the Guardian Council, or what they want independent of Ahmadinejad. And even then, the Guardian Council might not necessarily be in full ideological agreement: we just don’t know.

          • STemplar

            Build a big enough device, keep it in the hold, and detonate it at the 12 mile line and you’d do plenty enough damage without ever entering US territorial waters.

          • blight

            At some point, the Iranians would need to maximize fission bombs or devise thermonuclear weapons if they wanted to set off bombs twelve miles from their targets and hope to demolish something of value.

  • KenP

    Even better, engine trouble or the desalination plant fails east of the Keys. Then imagine it being towed home via the US Navy. Best PR ever.

    • orly?

      I would want full radio and visual documentation of the event for all the world to see!

  • amauyong

    hmmm…..i wonder if these iranian ships selected for the patrol can handle the deep atlantic..

    .i am also wondering how their logistics train would be like….

    Sea conditions in the atlantic isn’t exactly benign.

    This is not some kind of holiday kind of row boat trip in the middle of a pond during summer either.

    Well…wish the iranians the best with their version / idea of a uniliateral self pawned version of **** waving/sizing “competition”.

    You have to wonder for their followers is it really truely worth it to sacrifice ones lives and lose contact with loved ones for “leaders” who lead from behind rather than from the front and yelling at the followers “You must die and make the necessary sacrifices for your country” [For the rest of us behind you, we get all the spoils and joys].


  • Bowmanave

    I mean, they have every right to put their ships anywhere they want in international water, I guess. I just don’t see what they hope to accomplish with this move.

    • STemplar

      Bravado. PR. Bragging rights. Pretty much nothing practically.

  • shawn1999

    Cool!! How kind of Iran to send us some target practice!
    Difference between Iran patrolling US waters and US patrolling Iranian waters: US fights terrorism. Iran encourages it. This should be more than enough prove who is evil and deserves to stay locked in their cage, and who doesn’t.

  • WPoS

    that’s because we burn the fat in Mpls during winter!

  • Rob

    What are the odds that these Iranian warships will be carrying nuclear weapons technology to Venezuela?

    • Tim

      Now, that’s a great idea. We can always claim that they carry “hum-ha” cargo and since they refused boarding for inspection, we had to… sink the darn thing.

      • Rob

        Our attempting to stop and inspect an Iranian warship (if they even allowed it without a fight) in international waters would be (correctly) considered by the Iranians to be an act of war. If we knew for certain that the ship carried nuclear material we could blockade Venezuela (as in the Cuban Missile crisis) but that could also considered by Venezuela to be an act of war. Which is why transporting nuclear weapons material by warship is the safest way for the Iranians to proliferate.

    • SJE

      Close to zero. They need all the technology they can get back in Iran.

      • Rob

        Just because Iran may not have the last piece of a 100 piece puzzle (yet) doesn’t mean they won’t be willing to give or sell some of the first 99 pieces (such as centrifuges) to other nations. Iran would love to be able to strike the United States with a nuclear weapon and helping Venezuela establish that capability is a win-win from both their perspectives.

        • SJE

          Iran is focussed on getting the bomb. Once it has, it will have a lot more freedom of action. Until then, giving stuff to Venezuela makes no sense
          (1) it dilutes the Iranian program
          (2) Venzeuala is no where near getting a nuclear program, so why start
          (3) Iran wants to keep alive the fiction that it is only interested in domestic nuclear power for peaceful purposes. Any evidence of this transfer weakens that narrative.

          • blight

            Correct. And Hugo hasn’t mentioned any interest in peaceful nuclear power, but that might be because I am woefully out of date on what goes on in Venezuela.

    • TLAM Strike

      I imagine they are trying to get stuff from Venezuela back to Iran. Say an F-16 Airframe, Parts for a Type 209 Submarine and maybe a working Su-30MK2 Flanker.

      • blight

        I never thought of it that way. But couldn’t Venezuela charter a ship and send it on to Iran? Just pretend its carrying some peaceful cargo, like…what does Venezuela produce asides from petroleum products?

        • SJE

          Hats made of fruit

  • RobertNorwood

    Welcome to the North Atlantic boys!

  • RobertNorwood

    Anyway, this will give our subs some really good practice. The Iranians, like the their buddies in Venezuela are just out to rattle our cage. I think some times they forget – the cage door isn’t locked.

  • Matrix3692

    well, maybe the USN can send a frigate to bait them to chase and just wait until the Iranian warships’ propeller shaft broke, like what happened to the RMN gunboat last week while chasing a Chinese frigate:
    the news article:
    some pictures(although in chinese):

  • Gaffer

    A bunch of Arabian Gulf (I called it that on purpose) sailors bouncing around in alight frigate in the Atlantic during the winter. I hope they bring their seasick pills and winter woolies!

  • P. D. Quick

    Someone tell the Iranians about al those old WW II mines that are still floating around out there. They might hit one or five by acident.

  • joe

    Yes. Not to put too fine a point on it, commercial GPS is something you can buy off the shelf in a souk on the somali coast if you really want to, let alone a country with sufficient engineering nous to sustain an oil industry. It is, sadly, no longer high tech.

    Is it good enough to target weapons or avoid mines? No. Will it allow you to say “Venezuala is thataway”? Yes.

    On general principles (i.e. the latter is famous for (A) communism and (B) alcohol and wild parties) I’d guess they’re more likely to head for Venezuala than Cuba for basing. More interesting is where they’d stop en route – I doubt they have the range to make the trip non-stop. Maybe they could ask to refuel at Jaffa or Arsuf? :-)

  • Bart Berger

    Hey how about getting one of the battlewagons out of mothballs just to greet them with 16 inch guns? That might change their mind about wanting a sea battle or intimidating us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

    • Christian

      While not being even close to feasible, this would be quite amusing. Them in their little 310 foot frigate running into a 890 foot Iowa class battleship. They would probably not be back.

    • STemplar

      How about just bump into them? No need to buy ammo for the guns, just hit em.

    • roland

      Just send a flottila of LC1, Manta, group of sea fighters and unmaned sea drones equipt with missiles and machine guns to block their way when entering our borders.

  • political_observer

    What will they send a large row boat with a Mulla in charge. We could send a couple boat loads of drunken weekend boat partyers to sin it then ther would be plausable denial I for one volunteer, sound likefun and I would even pay for the beer and stuff.

  • itfunk

    Iran sends a corvette off the coast and just look at the orgy of hate and fear.
    Perhaps they are right – just a nation of scared little girls.

    • STemplar

      Perhaps they are? I mean after all on any given day of the week the POTUS could pick up the phone and turn Iran to ash, and we haven’t. So you’re same logic can be turned on you. If there is a lion next to you and it has never really bitten you, why are you afraid of the lion?

      • blight

        Didn’t Reagan talk about The Bear in his re-election commercials?

    • TLAM Strike

      Hate and fear? Mostly I’m hearing laughter!

    • Roland

      I am more worried of their (Iran) Presidents mind health than their navy. After reading his speech on the news, I taught to believe the man is crazy mad.

  • Tony C

    Send the Iranian sailors Ham sandwiches and rum for their efforts!!!!
    They probably aren’t nearly as hard-lined as their government.

  • Robert A. Fritts

    Wow have they been studying our doctrine. Now they can waste $millions patroling shores that are realisticly no threat to their country. They will have to work hard because we waste $Billions doing the same thing. Soon they may ask for permission to inspect American Power Plants. They are a soveriegn nation, they can waste their money how they want. Before you laugh think about the reverse perspective.

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  • Michael

    Last I heard, a destroyer doesn’t constitute a “powerful force”….at least not in the western hemisphere….

    • joe

      Technically it’s not even a destroyer, anyway, it’s a frigate-weight vessel.

  • John Moore

    Now that you opened this up can of worms, how about some more information on this little puppy? Like how far can it travel with out refueling, how are they going to stay on station for a long period of time? Where is their logistical support going to come from?
    I guess we will let them come into some port along the coast to refuel and re-supply right? It stated in one article I read where it carried one Bell helo for ASW work. Did we sell it to them?
    This should be fun to watch if it happens.

    • NKonaya

      They do have logistical ships:

      And probably would be allowed port access in Havana, Cuba.

      • blight

        Long way from Iran to Havana. I wonder if they are welcome in Egypt or Lebanon, which would give them one stop in the Med. Maybe Morocco before entering the Atlantic.

        To that end, is there any evidence that they’re in active collaboration with Cuba, or is it our American habit of stringing together “enemies” over the last half century and assuming that they are all colluding together? Technically Cubans would be godless infidels too…

        • Lightndattic

          I seriously doubt Israel would allow an Iranian warship anywhere near Lebanon. Morocco is probably out since they are an ally of ours and would probably take in the welcome mat (for another 12 or so F-16’s)

          Seriously, though…. They’re taking a page out of our book, so let’s take a page out of theirs- Let’s get a volunteer force of offshore powerboat racers and practice swarm tactics against their ship. Let them know how annoying and potentially dangerous it can be. We can keep an armed SH-60 over the horizon in case something happens.

  • TLAM Strike

    BEWARE INFIDEL BLOGGERS!! Iran is building an aircraft carrier:


    • Prodozul

      The comments are hilarious XD

    • Briareous


      Thats some paranoid ranting going down at that link.
      Maybe Disgruntled Guest should cast his “informed eye” at that site.

      Cheers for the link.

  • Tim

    The news just gets better each day….

    Press 1 for Hezbolla… Press 2 for…

  • Rajarata

    Easy Easy folks…Iran hmmm….one hurricane or one Atlantic storm those saliors will want their mamma ! Take ’em to walpart then they all defect ! No worries even though they’ll refuel in Cuba.

  • Naijaie

    Hahahahaha, I am laughing my but off

  • J Weich

    Interesting how everyone completely misses the point. Why does the US have the right to do this to Iran, but not them to us. Might is right? Well that’s obviously been proven wrong over the last decade. Perhaps some deeper thought as opposed to macho-military idiocy might prove to be enlightening. We are all human beings, with the same emotions, desires and ambitions. Most of the population of any country wants peace and to just get on with life. It’s the ruling class that cause wars, and none more so than ours (by several orders of magnitude), and we are their pawns. If you get a kick out of the killing technology, then frankly you are sick, or profiting, or both.

    To be honest, The US has become the second Roman Empire, and is obviously headed for the same fate.


    • STemplar

      No one here has ever said anything about the “right” to do anything. You’re engaging in the same relativistic babble these other apologists for Iran are. The difference is quite simple, we get a say in our government and they do not. We think it’s ok for non Muslims to exist and prosper and they do not. We think it is ok for woman to be treated as equals and they do not. We think its wrong to discriminate against people for gender preference and they execute homosexuals. We think all religions should be practiced freely and they do not. We think a free press is a good thing and they do not. We allow people to gather publicly and air their grievances about the government and they truncheon and imprison people for doing so. If you need these things pointed out and explained to you, then you are blind sir.

    • Lightndattic

      We have the right to protect our interests in international waters where threatened. If Iran did not occasionally drop mines in the gulf, threaten our commercial interests (oil tankers) in the region with shore bases ASMs, and threaten to close the Straight of Hormuz then we would not need to be over there. We patrol the Red Sea/Western Indian Ocean because of the threat of piracy to our interests (commercial shipping). If Chavez started buzzing or attacked cruise ships in the south Caribbean, then we’d have patrols down there as well.

      See the difference? No threat (real or perceived), no presence. There are no interests of Iran off the east coast of North America, so this is just a tantrum to make themselves appear the victim.

    • blight

      You’re right in that both nations are committed in a death-spiral of tit-for-tat. But Obama has been castigated for “resetting” relations with Russia, even though it makes geopolitical sense instead of domestic approval points sense. The present POTUS is more open to talk than the previous one. Iran will lose an opportunity to make things “right” with the West if it is in their interest.

      Israel has pretty good proof that the nations of the Middle East (and the peoples of the Middle East) don’t really like them all that much (six wars later…); and as long as Palestinians are sidelined in land they owned before 1949 and were displaced by diplomats in San Francisco (and eventually NYC) without much recourse by Palestinians.

      It’s not like Palestinians as a people are intrinsically detrimental to Israel: Israel has had a sizeable Arab population of Palestinian descent, plus Druze and Bedouins. Everyone wants the most compromise-free solution, and that means nothing will ever get done because someone always loses.

    • skyhawk

      Problem is We are civil They are not. the following scares me we should deal with them now.

  • Danceman

    The situation re the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and its main aim of imposing by force its flavour of Islam world wide has got to a point that is threatening all the civilised world. Iran and Venezuela need cleansing of them now. They have been been left too long and have leap frogged ahead in terror by getting Russian and European help. Belarus also needs cleansing of all its vast stocks of weapons and total isolation of the county until safe.

    This bizarre idea that all countries are equal needs throwing out. Non democratic countries like North Korea, specially those that sponsor terrorism should have no rights and the ” civilised” countries should manage them. If they allow terrorists on their soil! Any resources in these countries should be taken to pay for this!

    This firm policy showing there is no future for bulling terrorist countries will lead to all quickly stamping out terrorist and becoming full members of the world community.

    • Thomas L. Nielsen

      You mean like Afghanistan?

      I’m also curious who, in your Master Plan, gets to decide who is a “non democratic country” and who is “civilized”?

      Regards & all,

      Thomas L. Nielsen

    • blight

      You’ve just opened a scary can of worms.

      Your pseudo-Manifest Destiny post concerns me…

    • Chimp

      As I understand it, the founding fathers specifically rejected the notion of the new United States as a democracy. The republican model was considered less likely to be hijacked by narrow interests.

      I have always liked the Westminster model used in the UK. It has both long and short term interests. The UK isn’t the best governed country on earth, but it has done alright.

      • blight

        It’s certainly quicker than waiting four years for an election. Vote of no confidence, change of PM and Cabinet.

  • SJE

    The Iranians are Shia. The republican guard has to worry about the Sunni more than they have to worry about other sorts of infidels. Most Islamic proselytization comes from the Sunnis, especially the Saudis

  • Elijah

    The motive is not understood. Are they ready to help other nations get out of the control of dictators and allow them to seek the truth about GOD or is it same old believe my lies or die.

  • roland

    I’d say sink em if they enter our borders or become a threat to the life’s of our people and country.

  • roland

    This could be the part of what Nostradamus was telling us.

  • Roland

    We should prepare for any evenualities. Physically, spiritually and defensively. If conflict erupts a war could possibly start. A bigger conflict could soon to follow.We should prepare for these things.

  • Dan M

    Heck, the Coast Guard could whip ’em without much trouble.

  • James

    Give the Iranian a 21 gun salute right to their port side amidships

  • Roland

    Start placing mines if they are going to harm us.

  • Joe

    Seriously we should invite them into port, offer them a stay at the finest hotel in the port, steak dinner, entertainment, for the day or two and then send them on their way with a hardy “yall come back now, ya hear” . That really would mess with whats his face in IRAN. Oh and take plenty of news footage showing them having a great time here and splash it all over the international news!!! and of course if they were to launch some sort of weapon, well we know what would become of their navy here and in their own ports in about a span of 15 minutes.


    Wow. So much bile, ignorance, hatred, and spelling errors!

  • K Nelson

    We are worried about Iran? Lets not forget who our real enemy are? That wouldn’t be China would it? Our so-called politicians are know communist sympathizers selling out the good Ole USA!.

  • Wayne

    So how come it’s alright for the Americans to patrol other countries waters, and have bases situated in other countries, but yet all the Americans here seem to be bent out of shape when the tables are turned? Seems like you Americans think you run the world when in fact you are slowly becoming a 3rd world country with the state of your economy and finances, maybe it’s time to stop worrying about everyones elses issues and start worrying about your own. Clean up your own house before you venture out to clean someone elses.

    • crackedlenses

      When other people are building weapons in their houses intended for use on mine, suddenly their business becomes mine. Islamic terrorists are out to get us. That’s why we’re out there…..

  • Roland

    They (Iran) maybe acting as a kid, probably nothing to worry about. But I think it’s best for us to prepare for any attack from them. They made this things not for display.

  • dan

    well u dont put your best ship at first.common knowlage

  • GWC

    Handheld GPS. Maybe.

  • Dennis Kolensky

    I’m sure the officers on board will have a standing invitation for dinner at the White House with Obama. After all someone has to play nice and kiss their backside ?
    Obama just endangered our security policy further by doing nothing when Iran has one of our Drone planes. The next thing you know Iran , or Iran sponsored Terrorist could be flying “armed” Drone Copies over Israel and the U.S – partly due to how current U.S. Leadership is performing. This wasn’t Bush’s fault ! I never hear Obama mention Bush, about the death of Bin Laden, or even the Seals, Obama communicates,implies that he was responsible for this ?

  • richie

    Obviously Iran wont win in a confrontation, I can not understand the double standards, so its ok for Israel to have nuclear weapons and not allow UN inspectors however its not ok for Iran to develop them, as for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq well nil found, perhaps America should have never invaded Iraq, as for the middle east no nukes would be better for everyone, perhaps 2012 is a bad year

  • Harry

    Hey, for crying out loud, let them dock in one of our ports, and let their crews have shoreleave. Nothing changes the perspective of those trapped under the rule of a tyrant, than allowing them to actually experience a free country. Can you imagine these guys visiting a port city in Brazil? LOL! They’ll never go back. Hehe…

  • dino

    YOU Americans talk too much your days in power is numbered with your economy about to crumble i cant wait to recieve you guys as refugees in my country.


    Iranian Navy is not comparable with USA Navy, no matter the amount of technology they have achieved.The USA Navy will clear that bunch of rubbish called carrier (Iranian Naval ship patrol-off-USA- coast).They dare not try anything funny,because they will be destroy in twinkle of an eye!

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  • Robert Fritts

    Its about time that other countries spent alot of their hard earned treasure to sail around the Globe. Maybe we can get the Chinese to make more port calls in San Diego too, the Bodyshop needs the traffic. If the Iranians visit South Carolina, there is great golf & fishing to be had. With our unemployment so bad we should be encouraging ALL foriegners to come and visit. Buy some Tshirts and Beer. Pretty soon there can be Persian fathered babies abandoned around the world just like so many Amer-Asian, Amer-German, Amer-CentAms, etc….With the Secret Service on a short leash Hookers & Discos in Columbia are hurting. Maybe then they will lose that inferiority complex.

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