China’s Second Stealth Fighter Getting Ready for Its First Flight

Just a quick update on China’s stealth fighter program. We’ve all seen the pictures that emerged recently of second J-20 stealth fighter, dubbed 2002, sitting alongside the first J-20, 2001, on the flight line at Chengdu — something that indicates a test flight imminent. Well, here are some pics showing good ole 2002 making a very high-speed taxi run. As you can see, she reached a high enough speed that her nose wheel lifted off the ground and had to use the drogue parachute to come to a halt.


H/t to David.

  • Minnocent Bystander

    I wonder. Supposing this jet was built on stolen technology (and it presumably was) What are the odds that the J-20 pilots will suffer Hypoxia?

  • kski

    You gotta point their! What other problems do you think our comrades behind the bambo curtain are having? Ejection seat not working, a broom stick for control, no cup holder? Who knows.

  • Richard S

    In other news, the family of the test pilot of the new J-20 was executed today because his taxi speed was too high and his nose lifted off the ground. One party official described it as “an assault on everything we know as Chinese people” and added, “when that parachute came out, it was like common sense took over again.”

  • Marc

    Lets face facts, the J-20 will do what ever it’s supposed too. And if it is built off of stolen tech, so what. Remember way back when a russian pilot gift rapped a Mig-25 for the united states. I hope china is stealing tech, because if they aren’t, then there is nothing any one can do about their conitnued rapid progress. It would mean that they can produce high tech weapons and what ever else they need with out outside help. Mean while the f-35 is turning into a pipe dream, and the f-22 has pilots scared to fly it.

    • Skyepapa

      The first part of what you say makes great sense — if China has indigenous capability to produce, and circumvent the need to steal, technology then we should all tremble a little. But, I have to ask, what the hell are you talking about when you bash the F-35? What does “turning into a pipe dream” even mean? The F-35 is a robust and capable platform and it will kick a lot of ass. And they’re already being delivered.

    • DGR

      The Mig-25 defect was a good example of this whole technology stealing thing. We got a defector and we got a good look at the Mig-25. We learned it was hand welded, used rather poor construction materiels by US standard, it destroyed its engines at top speeds, visability was extremly limited, you could avoid its radar by staying below 1600 feet, the F-4 was superier in a dog fight, and it had an almost useless combat radius for anything but firing a single salvo of missles on an intercept course.

      The US has gone about things a differant way. We dont want the technology, we want to know how to design our aircraft to defeat everyone else. The Jap Zero we captured in Alaska was classic. The Zero had American planes on everything but guns and armor. But we learned how to exploit its weaknesses in a dogfight and after that even our second rate aircraft were shooting down Zeros like it was going out of style. As much as I dont want to agree that them stealing tech is good, I think your point is valid. Up till now they have yet to prove they can design an inhouse design relying on only there original designs. So in the end that is a good thing.

      • tiger

        The Zero was a fine plane for its day. The mind set on use was different. If you are faster & better handling; The American won’t get close to shoot you. The use of cannon was also a plus over our .30 & .50 cal MG’s. What really changed was the loss of the cream of IJN pilot corps at Midway. They never got the talent level back. By late war, our tech got better & the talent were on suicide duty. It’s like camparing a katana to a calvary saber.

        • Atomic Walrus

          Just keep in mind that they lost a lot of the cream to American pilots in less maneuverable aircraft that had the benefit of armor plating and self-sealing fuel tanks. Once the US developed tactics like the Thach weave to counter the Zero’s advantages, the Japanese didn’t have much else to fall back on.

      • Jeff

        “We dont want the technology, we want to know how to design our aircraft to defeat everyone else.”

        This must be why we captured a whole bunch of German scientists and engineers and put them to work to design turbine engines, fighter planes, and Saturn V rockets…

        • Vec

          Stop telling the truth.U.S is therefore stealing technology as well

          • Jeff

            I’m providing a public service to these mouth-breathin’, west virginian sister-lovers… I pity these slack jawed dweebs for never getting much education, and I’m providing them with some here.

    • Vec

      At last u r facing the truth.

    • CP in NJ

      I have to agree. Even if this tech is ALMOST good as ours, do not ever gorget they have the money to prevent tons of it. *IF* we spend the money, we can fix the one major flaw of the Raptor. **IF** we spend the money we can make a hundred or so F35s. What good will they be against 500 or 600 of these J20s? We have to think, and think hard. We are NOT limitless on funds, so we’re gonna have to get better at procurement. I honestly do NOT think our government or our military can do that.

  • Peter

    Those must be Russian engines. Any ideas what model?

  • Lance

    Not surprised. Overall this plane is based on MiG 1.44 tech and stealth technology came from a F-117A shot down over Serbia in 1999. SO in the end not surprised they are experimenting with there combination of the two technologies.

  • Marc

    Skyepapa, thank you for informing me, and I hope the F-35 is as good as you think. But right about now if I matched it up with an f-16 or F/A18 Super, who do you think will come out on top?

  • Speedy

    Umm. How big does a fighter get before it is too big to be a fighter?

    • tiger

      In the 100+ years of aviation, planes have increased in size. The Red Barron would have thought A P-38 to be big. Guys flying F-86’s would call a F-14 or 15 big as well.

    • UAVGeek

      It’s all about Wing loading and thrust to weight ratio. Of course when you get bigger it’s hard to get strength to weight, and when you get heavier, it’s harder to get engines big enough. Reference Bf-110’s failure as a fighter.

  • duuude

    Ahh, the F-35 JSF, where the “Joint” means it’s shit that all the services are gonna have to eat, and shit that all the fanboys love to smoke.

  • Bob Bradly

    know thy enemy.

  • Scott Bradley

    Consider that this is an attempt at a Stealth fighter, not a competitor with the F-22 or the F-35…not yet anyway. They are trying to develop an F-117 like Stealth Fighter here, and based on size it probably will have some bomber capabilities… time will tell.

    As to the delivery of O2 under high speed and altitude (vac) conditions… well, many programs have had to overcome this. I am sure that the AF is trying to define the hypoxia issues and correct them… perhaps this information is what we should be striving to control in our less than secure Military/Industrial complex.

  • Stratege

    AFAIR Chinese engines still have extremely short life cycle

  • Jim

    Maybe the Chinese can send over some of their airplane developers and fix our F-22 oxygen problem? IF, and that is a big IF, they did steal data from us that is being used on their J-20, perhaps they also wound up with all the technical information about what might be causing these oxygen mishaps? Hey, just a thought Right?

  • suvo

    chinese all arms is copy by russia&us.china have not capability to make any modern arms.

    • King

      jealousy!, sour grape bitch! and looser lol!!!!!!!!!!.

      Russian, west and jap stolen our inventions such as gun powder, rocket and others. If wasn’t us you would still butt naked and have no toilet paper to clean your hairly and dirty ass!

  • johnysmith

    As general aviation in the United States slides further into apathy China has discovered how useful a network of general aviation facilities. Is the Future of General Aviation in China?

  • david

    no bad, i heard the news about the china flighter , that is wonderful.
    i have a strong competitor and it is good for us.
    hope f22 have solved all problems!

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