F-22 transfer to Tyndall frozen

The Air Force has delayed the transfer of an F-22 squadron from Holloman Air Force Base, N.M. to Tyndall Air Force Base, Fla., as the Air Force has halted planned force structure changes.

Air Force leaders paused proposed transfers after the service’s plans received fierce opposition from Congress over perceived slights to the Air Force National Guard and Reserve. The transfer of the 7th Fighter Squadron and its F-22s is just one of many aircraft movements put on hold.

The Air Force has not set a date when the transfers will restart as a potential $500 billion cut to defense spending looms if Congress does not avoid sequestration set for Jan. 2. The resulting sequestration cut would alter force structure planning for all three services and force military leaders to re-evaluate the budgets they put forth to Congress this past year.

The two F-16 squadrons at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., will remain there as the plan to move them to Holloman were dependent on the transfer of the 7th Fighter Squadron.

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  • Menzie

    Yeah it is unfortunate that the military is coming to hard times but with no present conflict a major concern the funding must be put towards infrastructure, education, healthcare, social security, etc. They Will maintain a force of over a million soldiers, airmen, sailors. But by “trimming the fat” so to speak we can afford the outrageously expensive F22, and F35. We are leaking money like a sieve and at least until the economy returns to its former glory there is no argument from me about funding cuts to the military. Would you rather have an even more crumbling road network , sewer networks, children in the south starving? An old argument and one I failed to see before the economic crisis. You must remember that our country maitains the largest most heavily funded military organization in the world. Even with the cuts it will still be so. Our research and development has not been cut so we will maintain supremacy as far as new technologies for some time. Could the Chinese surpass us? Yes it is a possibility but not for at least two decades, during which time the economic environment may change. It is a case of maybe’s but I would rather see the next generation of children fully educated and integrated in preparation for that day.

  • USA

    it really is to bad the military is losing a lot of funding now and they really need to fix those problems the f22 is having. i would also like to see the numbers of the raptor increase since the russians and the communist chinese have stolen there own stealth palins. the air force has some serious compitition now. americas military really needs to step up its game before the chinese catch up to us.

  • USA

    you sound very smart. my email is eugenenunnp51@hottmail.com if you want to talk more about it but with all the compitition with the russians and the chinese it seems like we need to beef up our military now rather than decreese it. that will only make us weaker. how about the president stop wasting money on crap we dont need before you decide to decrese military funding because we really need that. there are many reasons we have the strongest military in the world but military spending is one of them. we shouldnt cut it. id rather cut other things that we dont NEED before i cut military spending. we NEED these plains

  • Ron

    It also worrisome that the Typhoon’s were able to score kill shots on F22’s inside beyond visual during Alaska Red Flag, unacceptable!!!

    • Jim

      well that is why they were able to, it was within visual range. The Raptor was designed for BVR combat, its suppposed to pop off a missile long before it gets into a knife fight. The typhoon is definitely going to be the more maneuverable aircraft with those huge canards. Typhoon can only win in wargames where the Raptor is restricted to close in dog-fights.

      • Ron

        That is why in my opinion unacceptable Jim, you spent that much amount of technology-if you drop your knife in combat you should be able to know how to win in a hand to hand combat.

      • Mike

        “The typhoon is definitely going to be the more maneuverable aircraft with those huge canards.”

        Wrong.

  • Lance

    Except for number cut and its oxygen system the F-22 has no problems but no more F-22s and fact budgets will get alot smaller means most F-22 units are stuck in there home bases.

    Tyndale has F-15s so no real loss there anyway.

  • torquewrench

    Re the photo:

    The use of the lightning bolt in U.S. military insignia should have been permanently stood down at the same time that Strategic Air Command was stood down, since the SAC insignia prominently incorporated the lightning bolt. Just as record-setting athletes have their numbers retired.

    Credit where credit is due, for those who at SAC who kept the peace during the worst part of the Cold War.

  • TonyC

    The Typhoon is maneuverable and has supercruise capability, the same as the F-22A. The F-22A has vectored thrust and very high angle of attack capability better than the Typhoon. The dog fight comes down to the skill of the pilot, much like the WWII Spitfire versus ME-109.

    • Ron

      Well sounds like our pilots needs to go back to TOP GUN school for more training, F22’s are made for one thing air dominance, no room to be out skilled.

      • tiger

        They are more needed to drive UAV’s & kill real bad guys. Not sit in F-22 cockpits dreaming hypothetical air to air fights.

  • David S.

    Given the facts that stealth coatings can be damaged in bad weather, and that we are turning our defensive focus towards Asia; I can’t imagine why we would want to move F-22s from dry New Mexico to wet Florida.

    • Torstein Tobiassen

      The 70 latest produced F-22s have the same stealth material as the F-35, a material that is much more durable. So that’s no reason not to buy more.

    • madderhatter

      The 43d Fighter Squadron (at Tyndall in FL) was the first squadron ever to have the F-22. It’s pretty wet and can be very cold at Elmendorf AFB, AK, and there’s a bunch of them there as well. I used to be in the 43FS (87-93) when Elmendorf was homebase, Of course during that time we were F-15C/D models.

  • blight_

    Congress seems to always butt in.

    Let’s pick contractors in their district-cost goes up
    Let’s pander to certain businesses who pay the right people-costs go up
    Let’s pander to certain employee groups-costs go up
    Let’s play General and decree where the air force can move aircraft-costs go up.

    Hmm…who’s at fault here?

  • Sailor12

    This is a jobs issue.

  • Vaporhead

    They could cut the entire defense budget, but the government still does not take in enough money to pay for the “mandated by law” entitlement programs. Only a significant complete overhaul of the government and how it operates will bring our budget back into the green.

    • tiger

      Elections or not, the cuts are needed & are coming.

  • Steve-O

    They need to re-evaluate the F-23 airframe. The politics involved with that decision were quite literally criminal.

  • Larry Fisher

    And how do we get the F22s and F35s in range to attack Russia and China? Do you understand that there range is limited. They are useless toys. The era of dogfights is over.

  • James M. Horak

    Congress is to blame those fat cats vote and create problems then election time they campaign against them so you can blame Senator Patty Murry and the rest of the so called super committee.

  • ROBERT STEIN

    THINK HOW MANY F-5 OR F-20S YOU COULD BUY FOR 1 F-22 THIS HIGH TECH CRAP IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR REAL SHOOTING WARS. IF THE CONG PILOTS HAD OUR TRAINING THE MIG-21 WOULD HAVE WIPED OUR BUTTS PUT A F-20 AGAINST A F22 AND I”LL BET ON THE 20 OR 5 SINCE WAR IS A SCARE TACTIC I”M NOT LOSEING ANY SLEEP.

  • William Clark lll

    Why is money our life in this world what about loving each other an the hell with the GOV.

  • Robert

    I missed news about the squadron move from Holloman to Tyndall AFBs. What was AF’s reasoning for transfer?
    My thought would be to move all the F-22s to the Air National Guard. I spent 18 years in reserve assignments after active duty including a tour at DaNang AB. I know the Air Guard can do the mission as good as the active force.