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I have been in the Navy for eight years, and four years before the in the Army. I myself have four tattoos, two large and two mid size, the only one that can be seen in my summer whites is the Navy tattoo on my arm, and the one on my calf when I wear the PT uniform, (yes we now have a PT uniform blah). I have read most of what you all have written, and I would like to add to it. As a Sailor I have heard time and time and time again how as Sailors we should be proud of the Navy's history, and our heritage, well like it or not, the Navy also should realize that Tattoo's are part of our heritage, in the 1800's Sailors would get tattoo's to show others where they had been around the world, i.e. a shell back tattoo was to show other sailors that he had crossed the line, an anchor would show that he had sailed the Atlantic. So like it or not the Navy can not and should not choose what part of OUR history and heritage to keep and what to get rid of. Now some of you may disagree with me on this next part, I do agree with the Navy's policy that no tattoos should be above the neck and on the face, we do have to look somewhat clean cut, and younger kids do look up to us. But for the most part the Navy spends time and money on uniform boards, and sending out surveys to see what we as sailors want, maybe they need to send out a few about the current tattoo policy.
V/R,
A fellow shipmate.
Posted by: JJ121 at June 17, 2008 12:36 PM
It all comes down to this: Being in the service is not the same as being a regular person outside the service who has rights and can do whatever they want cause its a free country. When your in the service or trying to get in the service, you now have to follow their rules and regs. And your owned by the government. So, you do what they want and follow what they say like it or not. Remember, the price of freedom is not cheap. This should help clear up some confusion. This is there way of weeding out the bad and getting the good. They have always wanted clean cut individuals. So, they can have a good image with the world. Times have changed though and the government doesn't follow the times. We all know that. And yes, I served in the Navy and didn't have any tattoos at the time. I wasn't against them though. Just didn't care for them. Now, I have several. And they won't let me in the reserves. I have an anchor with a skull on my arm and they say that regs state you can't have any showing. Well, I turned around and walked away in disappointment. They just want the good again. That's life.
This policy is about keeping up appearances for the Navy. Like it or not many people associate tattoos with gangs and negative things like that; whether or not they actually have something or that nature incorporated into them. Tattoos are a permanent choice that will affect both you both socially and in the work force, this was something that should've been considered before getting one thats always visible or that has something distinctly controversial.
Posted by: Abradix at December 25, 2007 08:58 PM
Headline: Navy Spells Out Policy on Tattoos, Body Art, Piercings
I was very disturbed to find my son who really loves the Navy may be being put out because of a minor problem with a ship mate where no one got hurt. But then the Tattoos came into it.
My son is second generation Navy, he has completed 3 pretty tough schools, and now he is CWIS Tech with a NEC. My son let me know after the first week on his ship that retention and moral was bad and I even witnessed this when I visited the ship on more than one occasion.
The Navy has spent well over 20,000 to train this young man so I cannot believe tattoos, which were a part of Maritime life for centuries are a good reason to lose this time a money invested.
I worked as a Gunners mate in and out of the Navy for 16 years I love the Navy as corny as it sounds. I need to hear exactly what happened but this has taken the "wind out of my sails"
Well as always god bless America and have a fine Navy day
Posted by: The BigBunner at December 13, 2007 09:42 PM
yeah the Navy is getting tough about tattoos. I was in great lakes for navy boot camp in january and one of the guys in my division got kicked out for having a tattoo on his arm, he was kicked out. the only way he can return is if he covers it up or gets it removed.
Posted by: Mercy at September 24, 2007 08:47 PM
i have to say that i was quite apalled to discover that the navy is dening people entry due to tattoos. what does the tattoo have to do with how well you are able to defend our country's freedom? we need to reevealute why this was made a rule because it has nothing to do with tattoos affecting the ability of our officers to serve it came from ignorance in a time that we are preaching acceptance.
Posted by: Rachele at September 24, 2007 11:14 AM
I was in the process of joining the navy this month, and I got down to the background check process and the gentleman so my tattoo on my neck which is a name. He then told me that I wasn't going to be able to join casue of it. I dont see why you can't have a tatto on the neck while in the navy. If its not anything are obscene, sexually explicit or symbolize sex, racial, religious, ethnic or national origin discrimination. I'm still interesting in joining the navy. Only if they bypass this rule.
Posted by: Charlene at September 19, 2007 03:12 PM
The Navy's new tattoo policy is a little extreme. I was discharged in 2002 with outstanding evals and a reenlistment code of RE1. I am in the process of trying to get back in, but it looks like because I have my hand, neck, throat and a small tattoo on my face I'm going to be disqualified. None of my tattoos are obscene, sexually explicit or advocate or symbolize sex, gender, racial, religious, ethnic or national origin discrimination. I would really like to talk to the person and/or the committee that put forth this policy. The Navy as well as other branches of the Armed Forces should not complain about not meeting recruiting quotas as long as they have ridiculous policies like this in place, especially since they pretty much have waivers for everything these days. Sounds like a case of discrimination to me. If anybody has any information on who I can contact on this matter it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Posted by: Andy at August 27, 2007 06:52 PM
I wonder what that Leviticus passage really meant in the original tongue and how it has been distorted by poor translations and interpretations? Maybe someone needs have a coke and a smile and just relax.
Posted by: Leviticus at August 24, 2007 10:50 AM
I just wanted to comment Levitius 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.
shall I point out the dead for the dead you shall not make any cuttings ...dont do those rituals of man to false gods by marking their bodies by cutting themselves.again i say this is not speaking of tatoo's.
Posted by: shapell at July 24, 2007 07:38 PM
My father, a WWII Navy Vet. had a tattoo on his arm which read "Death Before Dishonor" and, as I remember, had a snake going up a sword. My son is interested in having this replicated, in honor of his grandfather. Does anyone know the design I mean?
My father, a WWII Navy Vet. had a tatoo on his arm which read "Death Before Dishonor" and, as I remember, had a snake going up a sword. My son is interested in having this replicated, in honor of his grandfather. Does anyone know the design I mean?
To all of you who keep talking about God and heaven and tattoos in the same sentences need to reread Leviticus 19:28. "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD" KJV.
Posted by: Bill at May 25, 2007 09:16 AM
The nice thing is, all you have to do is "lose" your medical record, blame it on whichever corpsman did your audio gram or whatever, and now you have been grandfathered in. I did this like three times, both my arms are sleeved and so is one calf, also have a cog on my right hand thumb/ index webbing. Yeah, my chief bitched, but at my next command I just told them I'd had them for years and they dropped it. Hasn't affected my evals or advancement so far.
EN2(sw)
Posted by: Trent C at May 10, 2007 10:55 AM
the thing i hated about being in the Navy is different peoples interpretation of rules and regs. you might be in one command and they be ok with the tattoo you got but when you get to your next command they may see it differently and all hell breaks loose. then your a shitbag and forget about evals. one outstanding sailor can go to shit in a blink of an eye just because someone decides to interpret rules and regs their own way. they were made to do that. there is so much leway that everyone gets confused and nothing but bad comes of it.
Posted by: Gary at April 11, 2007 10:28 AM
By taking away the personal freedom of a tattoo is like taking away your religous rights. Just another example of where or country could head if things don't change.
Posted by: RossGerard at April 4, 2007 11:43 AM
Naval tattoos are such a historical reality in Navy life that this may hurt the force. We want wimpy political correct high tech staff manning weapons of death and not being able to express themselves. Wow. Prisoners in the US have more rights & privileges then the men and women we ask to risk their lives for their country. Defending liberty seems to be a political B.S. term when used by many unless your butt is on the line. Let them limit the areas of view only.
Posted by: adam at April 3, 2007 07:54 PM
I believe that....If the tatoo you recieve is not "ANTI" anything then it should be favored within the service that protects us "free" Americans. We are not to be "ANTI" anything but share our love FIRST to the US, THEN the world. If the US has it backwards, well then I am sorry, I will say try to keep the faith in God above who will NOT look at your tatoos, but your heart for an entrance to peace forever. Should we represent? The US gov't WILL NOT buy you a ticket to heaven for sure. OR, maybe we should start praying in the schools for added support from above??
Posted by: Guido at February 5, 2007 12:59 AM
I it seems to me we have our interest in the wrong direction, huh on tattoos in the Navy,there is more issues that are more important. ALL Of my (8)uncles and my-self(CORPSMAN/FMF/8404/DV where in Navy. it is a tradtions,,, to many poltics huh... GOD SPEED.....
Posted by: Jeremy Greene at January 8, 2007 07:43 PM
I've been in the navy for 2 years now. the navy's stance on tattoo's have changed so many times that no one really understands them, as well with the higher ups. i've gotten many tattoo's on my biceps and forearms without too many questions... just keep posted on the current regs. work with the chain of command, keep them tasteful and you shall not have any problems if you still wish to get tattoos in the navy.
Posted by: matthew at December 20, 2006 01:57 AM
Since when is it taboo for tatoos to stand in the way of defending your country. Geez....only in America
Posted by: Lynda at December 10, 2006 08:54 PM
I have 10 years in and I have had my tattoos for 20 years now the Navy said I must go because they are dis tastfull They should have told me before I joined
Posted by: Chris Miller at December 1, 2006 01:27 PM
Here is what pisses me off. I am getting marriedthe 17 of august and my brother and fiance and I are a really tight nit group. We all believe in mostly the same things. so as a wedding gift my brother was going to take us out and we were all going to get tattoos. well I go to bootcamp in sept. and so i thought i would be kinda smart and call my recruiter and ask if I should wait and he told me if i got the tatto I would be kicked out of bootcamp and the navy altogether. Now normally I could handle this but the fact that it was to be a wedding gift is like a slap in the fae to me because it was something we all were looking forward to. but hey i guess it will all workout for the better,thats what i keep telling myself anyway
Still a proud sailor though
Posted by: Cody at August 13, 2006 02:05 AM
My dad was a proud sailor in WWII. He had a tatoo of an anchor which read USN and then something under. I now have a nephew who was very close to him who would like to have a replica of his grandfather's tatoo. Any ideas where I might find pics of such a tatoo?
Proud kid of a proud sailor of the U.S. Navy.
Posted by: sdw at August 10, 2006 09:47 PM
My husband currently serves in the Navy ...he was once a boiler tech now he has gone engineman ...he followed regs per his command to get a tattoo on his hand of the boiler tech and the engineman cog ...his command said no cuz the boiler tech rate is no longer ...even though he still works on boilers ...but there are guys on his boat that have tattoos on their necks that are very visible in uniform ...this new policy sucks
Posted by: Rande at August 10, 2006 06:28 AM
Although I am new to the Navy I have 3 tatoos already soon to be 6. I got all of them with in the 1st year I was in the Navy. I think it is B/S what they are doing to tattoo policy!
Posted by: ACAN LEE at July 1, 2006 12:41 AM
As a former sailor for 15 yrs and a disabled vet. I am sickened by the stance of the military on tattoos. This is part of the Naval heritage and I think that with the loss of free will of the sailor goes the loss of pride to be one!! I was more old school than even my close friends in the Navy and bucked authority whenever possible and tried to get a tattoo in every port regardless of the consequence. Proud Sailor
Posted by: Sailor Gary at June 19, 2006 12:09 PM
To every one!
If you love what you see and feel it is nice enough to put on your body so be it (to a point), yes naked bodies are of the past for some but not everyone has them. As for me, I have one and will be getting another for my son who joined the Navy. It's a heart with yellow ribbons and an ankor set in the middle. He also wants a tattoo. I can't wait to see it. Any service man dreams of a tattoo while in the service, if it's nice and in an appropriate place go for it!
Posted by: Betty P, at February 3, 2006 05:41 PM
I think that the Navy standards on tattoos are just fine not. I have too tattoos now that no one can see and I would like to get more which I can if I follow the standards which are set now and which are within reason. I totally agree with the standards in saying that sailors shal not have naked bodys and or gang offiliation. I find these tattoos offensive and totally rediculous myself. There are lots of other tattoos that can be very tasteful and beautiful a naked women on the body does not make you a better sailor or a better man. If I can see the tattoo and it looks nice I think that it is more than professional and one should be allowed to have them.
Posted by: Allen Noel at September 8, 2005 03:30 PM
Dear Sir (or Ma'am), I'm an italian american, former DT3 of the US Navy. I think that nobody around this world dislike american sailors because they have tattoos. In Italy, nowadays, even young girls have tattoos. Of course, exagerations may become ridiculous, common sense, but something showing on your arm or neck or wherever is fine, as long as we are nice to people, and plitically correct. Did you know that the sailors of the dutch Navy,(Holland, where Amsterdam is),are allowed to wear ear ring in uniform? And nobody dislike them. America is beautiful because a free country. Please let us not become a bunch of bigots. Please. I love you, God bless America and their friends.
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