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Accidents happen 99.99% of the time WITHIN the lab - whether it is in the Yukon or Boston.

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Shut those down that are not specifically working on government sanctioned and regulated projects. Come on America - -wake up before it's too late.

Posted by: Randy Hart, USAF Retired at August 9, 2005 07:05 PM

You need a regulatory body, whether it be home- grown or an extension of current gov agency, to come in periodically. Inspections show where training and procedures are lacking, so training, training and more traning doesn't necessarily equate to quality control if said training doesn't span all the gaps. I work in the Pharm industry in Vaccine prodcution, and if I may borrow and paraphrase a statement from my beloved USMC......"the FDA, no better friend, no worse enemy."

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when I was growing up(now66) my parents an M>D & R.N. along with the nursing training and cooking training in the USAF goal was to teach in my words that "cleanliness is next to godliness" & everything should be cleaned so that you can eat off it from flors to ceilings if this conept is "drilled" in to all;top to bottom personel there wouldn't be fear of accidents.

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A well developed micro forensic slide show will go a long way to implant in to everyones mind the need for alertness at the work station. (prevent cross contamination,by good habits)
Posted by Paul Heffernan,06/21/05

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Clean rooms and laminar flow benches are no more cleaner than the workers dicipline and awareness of the hazzards being worked upon. DRILL,DRILL, THE SAFETY BASICS until they become as natural as a reflex,for the lab techs. Develope slide shows to educate all who work at or in the labs.
A well developed micro forensic slide show will go a long way to implant in to everyones mind the need for alertness at the work station.
Posted by Paul Heffernan,06/21/05

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Clean rooms and laminar flow benches are no more cleaner than the workers dicipline and awareness of the hazzards being worked upon. DRILL,DRILL, THE SAFETY BASICS until they become as natural as a reflex,for the lab techs. Develope slide shows to educate all who work at or in the labs.
A well developed micro forensic slide show will go a long way to implant in to everyones mind the need for alertness at the work station.
Posted by Paul Heffernan,06/21/05

Posted by: paul heffernan at June 21, 2005 11:53 AM

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A well developed micro forensic slide show will go a long way to implant in to everyones mind the need for alertness at the work station.
Posted by Paul Heffernan,06/21/05

Posted by: paul heffernan at June 21, 2005 11:53 AM

Screen applicants, background checks, do mock testing in Level 4 lab mockup, use mock up drugs & see how trainees do, change equip & policies.
Use robotics IF needed.
Hire those with some Sciences background for roles vs just Biosciences.
Hire those from the Army whove used or trained in BW alone.
Expand hiring base.
Hire online & job fairs.
Give incentives, bonus, etc for recruits.
Or risk a Ebola scare 100X worse in future.
More Biolabs to NV, UT, CO, WY area.
Or share with Yukon Territ, Canada?
Freeze those bugs.

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