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Punk at the Pentagon

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Punk rock -- and Pentagon program managers?

Stick with us here.

Two Air Force majors with way too much time on their hands have tackled that very topic in the latest issue of a Pentagon magazine called Defense AT&L (that's "acquisition, technology and logistics" -- don't go looking for it on newsstands).

The duo has the temerity to suggest that the Ramones, the Clash and others like them "would have totally rocked as program managers."

Punk is primarily a do-it-yourself genre, and even those who make it big usually manage to retain a sense of DIY amateurism in their art. Unfortunately, in many professional circles, the term “amateur” is synonymous with “sloppy,” and indeed, many amateur-driven projects fall short of the quality level inherent in more professional enterprises. Many, but not all.

Some amateurs actually produce better-quality stuff than the pros. Linux is one example, and the pioneers of punk are another. Skunkworks’ early stuff (the U-2, SR-71, etc.) certainly fits the bill, though like most garage bands, they lost some of their edge when they made it big.

Punk rock, the authors conclude, "is loud and in-your-face, unapologetic and fearless. We need more of that attitude around here."

In the wake of the Darleen Druyun acquisition scandal, maybe they have a point.


THERE'S MORE
: On that note, consider this hot-off-the-presses story from InsideDefense.com.

Michael Wynne, the former Pentagon acquisition chief, has been pressed back into service for the summer to oversee the Defense Department's base realignment and closure efforts, according to Pentagon sources.

At the behest of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Wynne scuttled plans to leave the Pentagon in late June, returning to a post he previously held -- principal deputy under secretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics, according to Pentagon officials.

By keeping Wynne in the Pentagon, Rumsfeld may have his eye on more than just a BRAC point man, sources say: Wynne's name is being floated for the vacant position of Air Force secretary.

Wynne was among four top Pentagon officials named by the Defense Department inspector general as major players in pushing the Air Force tanker lease deal that was at the heart of the Druyun scandal. Should be an interesting confirmation hearing if the Bush administration actually picks him to pilot the Air Force.

-- posted by Dan Dupont

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Posted by: kola at October 28, 2005 02:00 PM


But they wouldn't take Joe Jack Talcum because of that stupid don't ask/don't tell policy. Their loss. Joe would totally (punk) rock at the Pentagon.

Posted by: General Achoo at September 26, 2005 07:08 AM


Four Star General Rodney Anonymous at the Pentagon...brings chills to your spine

Posted by: General Achoo at September 26, 2005 07:06 AM


"Punk rock, the authors conclude, "is loud and in-your-face, unapologetic and fearless. We need more of that attitude around here."

uh... unapologetic, fearless, and profoundly anti-authoritarian.

Posted by: Dave at July 16, 2005 02:38 PM


I'd also shy away from the term "ameteur". "Outsider" would probably be a more appropriate term.

I've had the opportunity to be involved with punk rock, both as a private individual, and as a professional, for the past 15 years. I recently curated an exhibition chronicling the history of Punk in San Pedro, California, and the major focus of my curatorial statement and effort was the strength and innovation made possible by the DIY work ethic. DIY projects often benefit from a cross fertilisation of ideas and efforts that occur when normal hierarchies of management are suspended.

Posted by: Marshall Astor at July 15, 2005 05:05 PM


I think they're using the term "amateurs" to mean people who aren't part of the established system to do X, rather than people who aren't good at doing X. These are the people who aren't going to play by a set of arbitrary rules simply because the rules are there, and in so doing manage to write their own rulebook.

I wonder if these Air Force guys know about Col. John Boyd and the Fighter Mafia.

"Amateur" isn't the best word for it, but my guess is that the term "rebel" is the kind of thing that gets much play with the top brass.

Posted by: Edward Liu at July 15, 2005 09:55 AM


Hmmm, I doubt that I would ever call "The Clash", Linux Developers, or "the Skunkworks" amateurs.

Lets start with Lockheed's skunkworks, started by legendary Kelly Johnson. This organization attracted the engineering cream from Lockheed. I don't think Johnson would have recruited amateurs.

Linux was mostly developed by computer scientists, and engineering professionals and students who were/are well trained in programming. Amatuer work is quickly vetted out in the Linux community.

The Clash was mostly the result of collabration between Mick Jones and Joe Strummer. Strummer was in two local pub bands before forming the clash. I don't think any rock/punk/rap band ever has much more experience than that.

Posted by: Steve at July 14, 2005 08:49 PM


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