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Ex-NSA Chief Blasts Taps, Calls for CIA Breakup

9707STSPI.gifFormer NSA director Admiral Bobby Ray Inman lashed out at the Bush administration Monday night over its continued use of warrantless domestic wiretaps – and called for the CIA to be broken up in two. It's one of the first times a former high-ranking intelligence official has criticized the program in public, analysts say.

"This activity is not authorized," Inman said, as part of a panel discussion on eavesdropping, sponsored by the New York Public Library. The Bush administration "need[s] to get away from the idea that they can continue doing it."

Since the NSA eavesdropping program was unveiled in December, Inman – like other senior members of the intelligence community – has been measured in the public statements he's made about the agency he headed under President Jimmy Carter. He maintained that his former analysts "only act in accordance with law." When asked whether the president had the legal authority to order the wiretaps, Inman replied, "someone else would have to give you the good answer."

But sitting in a brightly-lit, basement auditorium at the Library, next to James Risen, the New York Times reporter who broke the surveillance story, Inman's tone changed. He called on the President to "walk into the modern world" and change the law governing the wiretaps – or abandon the program altogether.

"The program has drawn a lot of criticism, but thus far former military and intelligence officials have not spoken up. To have Admiral Inman – the former head of the NSA -- come forward with this critique is significant," said Patrick Radden Keefe, author of Chatter: Dispatches from the Secret World of Global Eavesdropping, who sat on the panel with Inman and Risen. "Because of the secrecy surrounding this type of activity, much of the criticism has come from outsiders who don't have a firm grasp of the mechanics and the utility of electronic intelligence. Inman knows whereof he speaks."

My Wired News article has details.

UPDATE 5:02 PM: While Inman was generally supportive of General Michael Hayden, George Bush's pick for CIA director, and Inman's NSA successor -- despite the fact that the Hayden was the guy running the questionable domestic surveillance project. Even his critics, Inman said, have given Hayden "high marks" for refocusing the agency on terrorism.

Most of 'em, anyway. NSA whistleblower Russ Tice, to put it mildly, hates Hayden's guts. Echoing TPM Muckraker allegations that "between 1999 and 2005, the NSA bungled two key technology programs and... has been burning through billions -- billions -- of dollars," Tice tells Defense Tech:

Through his mismanagement, many critical SIGINT missions were not funded and the intelligence needed and depended on was not collected. Perhaps 911 could have been avoided if NSA had those assets in place and did not waste all that money...

He lied about the NSA being involved in domestic spying and continues to lie about the enormous scope of those programs. He stated NSAer know about the Forth Amendment to the Constitution and in the same breath proved that he did not have a clue about it hinging on "probable cause" not reasonableness. He forgot to mention that he also violated the FISA Act and NSA's own policy on domestic Spying (USSID-18).

To be frank, he is a self promoter, an ass-kisser, an accomplished liar, an oath breaker, an extremely poor manager, a sadist, a criminal, and a proven domestic enemy of the Constitution of the United States. Oh, and a piss-poor all-source intelligence officer to boot. He should have remained an air opps officer restricted to the flight ready-room.

To sum Hayden up in a few words, he is dishonorable and without integrity.

In would appear that the president will not tolerate a lap-dog like Porter Goss that barks now and again. Hayden will lift his leg and squat all over the constitutional carpet, but while in the lap of the man who sits the newly erected thrown, Hayden will wag his tail and only open his mouth to lick his master's face.

Lord help us!

UPDATE 6:35 PM: Inman also emphasized something Defense Tech has been saying since the start of this scandal: that your average spook finds the idea of spying on Americans downright revolting.

One of Inman's "proudest moments" as NSA director was when senior employees told him not to pursue a legally fishy operation, he noted. "It's deeply ingrained in you that you operate within the law."

UPDATE 6:40 PM: In addition, Inman put to bed the notion that the NSA's domestic eavesdropping program only examined the links between terror suspects -- not the contents of the conversations themselves. Is this all about who-called-who? "No, it isn't," he answered, on his way out the door (he had to leave quick, because of a bout of food poisoning). For voice communications, which are tough to search, that might be the case, he added. But with e-mail? No way.

Comments

This program DESTROYED my business. I had a Real Estate Corporation 2 hours south of Phoenix, AZ. They, the NSA hacked into my comoputer destroid my 8 years of archives, my web site and was denied access to any phone. My cell phone went from my contacts to a bunch of unknown names and numbers, my company sign was destroyed. and after i found the GLOBAL NSA SPY SYTEM in my computers (found it prior to them destroying everything)my life has been a series of torturous days..now at over 3 years....it might be easy to get compinsation from them or anyone in our government if they did not have the fkn secret courts! PS...do your self a favor and remember sometimes it's easier to just bend over and let things be, as opposed to finding a top secret computer NSA SPY PROGRAM program......thanks President Bush for all the Christian un-American Leadership and torture.....feel free to email me about this I would like to go public with my story....oh yea one more thing....after I found it my life has been threatened several times by them....but I don't care,,,i will gladly die trying to save your freedom....what's left of it.....additionally just know they install a secret mic and camera into every computer,thanks to Microsoft who has provided our government a remote access into all of your computers....dont believe me....click "controll -ALT - delete" then click users...then right click on the computer user and see what "lies" at the bottom...but don't worry ...you can't change it :O)

Posted by: Joe at July 17, 2008 04:29 PM


Admiral Inman at least has principles. Knowing Admiral Inman is in the background cloaked as a trojan horse watching the absurdities actually makes me feel at ease.

I can actually sleep tonight knowing a hitler clone wont emerge

Posted by: ORION23 at March 31, 2008 10:50 PM


Chicago Station,

Youn need to learn how to comment. Comments are to be vituperative and include lots of name-calling and conclusions. Premises are not allowed. Remeber what Phil Hartman said: "Don't confuse me with facts."

Posted by: rutty at May 11, 2006 07:54 PM


Two issues

1. Hayden and the 4th amendment:

There seems to be some confusion- by the charming ex.vig and others- about what standard is required by the 4th amendment. This question shows the confusion:

"Jonathan Landay with Knight Ridder. I'd like to stay on the same issue, and that had to do with the standard by which you use to target your wiretaps. I'm no lawyer, but my understanding is that the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American's right against unlawful searches and seizures[...]"[Landay question to Hayden, Press Club]

Landay is wrong. Here is the true standard:

"Warrants cannot be issued, of course, without the showing of probable cause required by the Warrant Clause. But a warrant is not required to establish the reasonableness of all government searches; and when a warrant is not required (and the Warrant Clause therefore not applicable), probable cause is not invariably required either. A search unsupported by probable cause can be constitutional, we have said, “when special needs, beyond the normal need for law enforcement, make the warrant and probable-cause requirement impracticable.”
[Supreme Court, Majority Opinion, "Vernonia School District 47J v. Acton" (1995)]


2. Hf: "Well, on the face of it, the program seems to violate FISA. Defenders of the program have argued against this impression using dubious-sounding legal arguments and the claim that they know more about intelligence than we do."

This issue turns on Section 109 of FISA, "which which explicitly contemplates that statutes can authorize intelligence surveillance outside the procedures set forth in FISA" [DOJ repsonse to House questions]. The adminstration is using the Authorization for the Use of Military Force [AUMF, September 18, 2001] as the statute refered to in FISA Section 109. You may agree or disagree. But that is one of the core arguments with regard to FISA.

The other core argument is the Article II "inherent authority" argument. This was recently reconfirmed by the FISA "Court of Review" which stated- in the first and only ruling they've ever made- that:

"[...] the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information...We take for granted that the President does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the President's constitutional power."

3. Finally, I found this answer by Hayden interesting:

Question: [...]General, how do you explain the
fact that there were several rare spectacles of whistleblowers coming forward at NSA,
especially after 9/11, something that hasn't really happened in the past, who have
complained about violations of FISA and United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18,
which implements the law at the agency?

GEN. HAYDEN: I talked to the NSA staff on Friday. The NSA inspector general reports to
me, as of last Friday, from the inception of this program through last Friday night, not a
single employee of the National Security Agency has addressed a concern about this
program to the NSA IG. I should also add that no member of the NSA workforce who has
been asked to be included in this program has responded to that request with anything
except enthusiasm[...]

Posted by: Chicago Station at May 11, 2006 02:34 PM


ex. vig,

Please do explain how you go from monitoring the monitoring phone calls coming into this country from people with terroist ties (known in some cases, suspected in others) to communism and despotism. Hyperbole?

Posted by: rutty at May 11, 2006 12:00 PM


Well, let's see, No one's taken over an embassy at no cost to themselves lately, likely the root cause for a great deal of what's happened since.

Haven't heard anything about national malaise, lately.

Haven't needed to walk my tank crew through exercises due to lack of fuel to operate vehicles.

Haven't needed to operate unsafe vehicles due to lack of funding for spares.

Unemployment is at historically low levels.

Inflation is holding steady at a low level.

Gross tax receipts are up, even though tax rates have been cut.

Qaddafi is uncharacteristically quiet.

Oh yeah, we're not being mocked internationally as an ineffectual paper tiger. That would be a Good Thing, by the way.

Posted by: JSAllison at May 11, 2006 09:29 AM


JSAllison wrote, "I'm sorry, but I don't see any reason whatsoever to pay any attention to former Carter administration officials. They were incompetent then and I've seen no evidence that they've learned from their mistakes."

LOL! And Bush administration officials?

Posted by: liberal at May 11, 2006 08:40 AM


test

Posted by: J at May 11, 2006 04:59 AM


I'd also like an explanation of the reasoning behind Inman's belief that, "[t]his program is not authorized". That's a conclusion. What's it based on?

Well, on the face of it, the program seems to violate FISA. Defenders of the program have argued against this impression using dubious-sounding legal arguments and the claim that they know more about intelligence than we do. Inman rejects the latter argument and reinforces the impression we got from the plain words of the law.

Posted by: hf at May 10, 2006 10:41 PM


--------
"Would Mohamed Atta qualify as one the "americans whose rights have been violated" if the eavesdropping had been in place before 9/11/2001 and had been used to catch him?"
--------

perhaps you wish to live in a communist state or be ruled by despotism....but, puhleeze, spare us the rhetoric and talking points and read on what makes a democracy so wonderful!!! More and more it becomes "The press secretary announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those decisions down. Make, announce, type.".....

Posted by: ex.vig at May 10, 2006 09:56 PM


Chicago Station wrote...
----------
""Hayden's appalling lack of comprehension regarding the 4th amendment as well..."

Example?"
-----------

LOLLLLOLLOL
http://www.google.ca/search?q=hayden%2B4th+amendment&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

jokes, type some words in to google, or are you as inept as the current administration, heh!

Posted by: ex.vig at May 10, 2006 09:48 PM


One question regarding Tice: Why would a professional talk like a thriteen year old?
Seriously. He uses the english language like an 8th grader. That doesnt make him wrong, of course. I just found it odd is all.

Posted by: rutty at May 10, 2006 08:05 PM


Would Mohamed Atta qualify as one the "americans whose rights have been violated" if the eavesdropping had been in place before 9/11/2001 and had been used to catch him? I am not trying to be a smartass. I am not aware (granted I am not all-knowing) of one specific person that has been targeted with this program. And let's be honest here. Would that lawyer (Linda Something, I think) who was illegally passing along info for that blind sheik in jail (remember the first WTC bombing?) qualify as one of these oppressed americans? (Does anyone remember the name of the organization she belongs to? Arent they one of the ones claiming that had been wire-tapped by the NSA? I wonder why the NSA would ever watch them.)

And what about this article: "Security services identify 700 potential al-Qa'ida terrorists at large in Britain" (http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article363121.ece). Would these people qualify as oppressed, too, if the NSA monitored their phine calls into this country?

Posted by: rutty at May 10, 2006 08:01 PM


"Hayden's appalling lack of comprehension regarding the 4th amendment as well..."

Example?

I'd also like an explanation of the reasoning behind Inman's belief that, "[t]his program is not authorized". That's a conclusion. What's it based on? Quoting Inman without an argument is at core an appeal to authority.

Posted by: Chicago Station at May 10, 2006 05:42 PM


Inman ought to know a lot about the illegal wiretaps. He was a maybe still is a member of the board of directors of AT&T. He joined the SBC board in 1985 or 1986. He probably knows how the phone company was deployed to help with this program and what they might have received in return.

Posted by: Johnson at May 10, 2006 05:20 PM


JSAllison wrote...
"I'm sorry, but I don't see any reason whatsoever to pay any attention to former Carter administration officials. They were incompetent then and I've seen no evidence that they've learned from their mistakes."

ahhhh, ok, besides the fact that it's another person who basically agrees with the majority of the American population regarding this absolute subversion of the law, constitution and respect for America and its citizens.

It's just too bad nobody mentioned Hayden's appalling lack of comprehension regarding the 4th amendment as well...that in itself should be grounds for a reversal on selecting this person to head the CIA, jeesh what other perverse ways will he interpret various laws and codes? Ah well, Bushie, like always, will stay the course and damn the rest of us.

Posted by: FD at May 10, 2006 05:08 PM


Good Morning Folks,

Of course JSAllison is correct, but why not let the goofy Admiral play in the Bush sand box.

Bobby would be a good fit with the "Beara" look alike that has been put up to run the Bush's NKVD, ooop's sorry I mean the CIA.

Lets face it, pun intended, Gen. Hayden has the face that looks like someone who runs a spy agency, just not sure which side. Besides when Senator Diane Finestein has the "hots" for you, your in. Now there's a power couple.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Posted by: Byron Skinner at May 10, 2006 01:51 PM


I'm sorry, but I don't see any reason whatsoever to pay any attention to former Carter administration officials. They were incompetent then and I've seen no evidence that they've learned from their mistakes.

Posted by: JSAllison at May 10, 2006 12:39 PM


CS:

I don't remember that *specific* case being discussed. But there was a sense among all three panelists that, when it comes to snooping on U.S. persons, the FISA statute has been violated by these NSA programs.


nms

Posted by: Noah Shachtman at May 10, 2006 10:48 AM


Noah, did anyone ask Inman if he's read the "In re:Sealed Case"? Have you?

Here's the relevant quote from the FISA Court of Review [Nov. 2002]:

"The Truong court, as did all the other courts to have decided the issue, held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information...We take for granted that the President does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the President's constitutional power."

If the President has "inherent authority" to authorize searches to obtain foreign intelligence what is Inman talking about when he says "this activity is not authorized"?

Posted by: Chicago Station at May 10, 2006 01:47 AM


==Narus ST-6400 and NarusInsight by Narus Ltd.==
Under Gen. Michael V. Hayden the NSA has forced tecom companies to implement massive domestic spying hardware. Even though Gen. Hayden has said at the National Press Club that "As the director, I was the one responsible to ensure that this program was limited in its scope and disciplined in its application." The NarusInsight is one type of domestic spying hardware. Capable of monitoring 10 billion bits of data per second in real-time. This means the NarusInsight can monitor an OC-192 in realtime. For reference 10 billion bits is 10 million Kbts, divide that by the average DSL user witch is 256 Kbts (10000000/256) you get monitoring of 39062.5 DSL lines in realtime for every piece of hardware. After data capture Narus softeware can replay data. What does this mean well acrodding too Narus website "Capabilities include playback of streaming media (for example, VoIP), rendering of Web pages, examination of e-mails and the ability to analyze the payload/attachments of e-mail or file transfer protocols." Think of it as Tivo for the internet able to replay 39000 US DSL users activity in realtime for every piece of hardware.
References:
Narus Ltd http://narus.com

Posted by: rb637 at May 9, 2006 10:09 PM


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