On Monday night, the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate told guys like David Hambling and me that we were welcome to come check out its microwave-ish pain ray -- provided we could make it to the middle of Georgia on 36 hours' notice. It wasn't exactly the most serious offer, for fellows in London and in L.A. And it's one of several reasons why I decided not to blog about the demonstration, when word about it hit the wires yesterday.
But New Scientist did pick up on one interesting tidbit: Theodore Barna, an assistant deputy undersecretary of defense for advanced systems and concepts told Reuters that "We expect the services to add it to their tool kit. And that could happen as early as 2010." (Here's a promo vid for the system.)
Three years from now, hunh? Well, we'll see. For years and years, there have been promises that the pain ray (or "Active Denial System" if you prefer) was just about to be rolled out to the field. Thirteen months ago, for example, the 18th Military Police Brigade requested ADS "to help 'suppress' insurgent attacks and quell prison uprisings." The head of the Army's Rapid Equipping Force said, after nearly 10,000 trial shots, the system was good to go. $30 million was allocated to outfitting three fighting vehicles with pain rays.
But the military still can't shake fears about ADS, as Hambling so ablynoted last month. As Hambling put it, "the big problem is not with the technology, which seems to work fine. The problem is getting people to accept it. Everyone is still worried the millimeter-wave beam is going to give them cancer, melt their eyeballs or make them sterile."
Will Americans really be any more comfortable with that, a few years from now?
Comments
Great device, lets hope the military can shake these fears regarding ADS and get controlling those rowdy crowds with ease....
Posted by: 800HighTech at March 19, 2008 03:47 AM
This is a dual purpose weapon. Critical flluid cells and organs can be made the target to neutralize a person in civilian or military. Åsk DARPA about its dual purpose lprojects. Imagine the worse and they will target individuals and populations as in Richard Brennan's book Protecting the Homeland and in Gottlieb Mind control with the West Doctors. Does Dr. Gottlieb run a clinic in Illinois with hsi chips with Thomas Sanderson who runs a brain scan clinic in Wheaton as an engineer with transnatinal threats program?
Posted by: anonymous at July 30, 2007 01:22 PM
I AM from the US, so I say test it on all the foreigners (Iraqis first) that we want.
Posted by: Marine at May 3, 2007 01:43 PM
Don’t really see any problems here, breaking up a violent demonstration the standard way with batons are dangerous both to the police and the protesters multiple injured and sometimes people die, now I’m talking about a European hooligans or radicals.
In the middle east and Africa then the enemy might be armed it’s a totally different situation. Then you have two options, redraw or use automatic weapons. The media don’t like the second one and the first one is not a option then defending a position and if you redraw the enemy see it as a victory.
The only problem would be if it was used on somebody for a long time, most probably somebody wounded, but as I understand this has a pretty narrow beam and is aimed much like a machinegun so if you hold it on somebody to hear him scream you could just go over to him and start kicking him who happens far more often.
Posted by: mags at January 29, 2007 02:17 AM
Ratheon is already selling these devices - Google Raytheon Silent Guardian to get their product descriptions and other reviews.
These weapons threaten our freedom in the present as well as the future.
Target at ElectronicElephants dot com
Posted by: Target at January 27, 2007 11:04 AM
Im still wondering what 10 minutes of full exposure to the pain ray will do to a human. If just a few seconds is enough to let most rioters disperse, what will 10 minutes do to somebody who cant run away because of him (for instance) being ducktaped to a pole?
And if it heats the upper layer of your skin like they say, then what does it do to eyeballs? Call me skicko, but i'd also like to note the skin on the males scrotum is very thin.
Im really not sure on this pain ray thing.. it can be very usefull, yes, but the potential for human suffering and a total publicity disaster is enormous. And dont say that wont happen: Abu-Grahib and some other cases show that in such big organisation as the military there'll allways be some idiot who doesnt follow the rules.
Posted by: Macaca at January 26, 2007 11:54 AM
I was zapped by this thing at a convention last year, and I can tell you it works.
As for the Wynne comment, this may sound cliche, but I was at the roundtable where he made those comments and I'm not going to say any names here, but a certain AP reporter took what he said and wrapped it around a pole of out of context. Unfortunately, this happens more often than I'd like to think it does.
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Posted by: Vincente at January 26, 2007 11:05 AM
This is amazing stuff. There was an article about it in Navy Times.
Posted by: Chris at January 26, 2007 10:59 AM
Isn't this "pain ray" actually a heat ray? That is, it seems to produce pain not by neural induction or some such, but by straightforwardly heating up a very thin layer of epidermis.
What happens if it's kept trained on someone for more than the recommended length of time? Does it produce blisters or worse? If not, why not?
Posted by: Allen Thomson at January 26, 2007 09:59 AM
I officially volunteer to be an emergency DT correspondent next time you’re invited to a demonstration here in Georgia.
Posted by: Evan at January 26, 2007 08:25 AM
I'm not from the US so I say test on all the Americians you want :P
Posted by: Foreign.Boy at January 26, 2007 01:20 AM
Great device, lets hope the military can shake these fears regarding ADS and get controlling those rowdy crowds with ease....
Posted by: 800HighTech at March 19, 2008 03:47 AM