Subscribe via RSS

Archives by Date
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008

See all Archives
Archives by Category
'Canes
Afghan Update
Ammo and Munitions
Armor
Around the Globe
Av Week Extra
Axe in Iraq (and Elsewhere)
Bizarro
Blimps
Blog Bidness
Body Armor Blues
Bomb Squad
Brownshoes in Action
Bubbleheads, etc.
Cammo Green
Catch the "Buzz"
Chem-Bio
Civilian Apps
Cloak and Dagger
Commandos
Comms
Contingency Ops
Cops and Robbers
Cyber-warfare
Data Diving
Defense Tech Poll
Dissent Tech
Drones
DT Administrivia
Eat DT's Dust
Extra! Extra!
Eye on China
Fast Movers
FCS Watch
Fire for Effect
FOS Files
Friday Funnies
Gadgets and Gear
Going Green
Grand 'Ol Osprey
Grand Ole Osprey
Ground Vehicles
Guns
Homeland Security
In the Weeds with Eric
Info War
Iraq Diary
Jarhead Jazz
JSF Watch
Just War Theories
Lasers and Ray Guns
Less-lethal
Logistics
Los Alamos and Labs
M4 Monopoly
Medic!
Mercs
Missiles
Money Money Money
Most Wanted
MRAP Edge
Net-Centric
Nukes
Old Skool
Our Shrinking Planet
Planes, Copters, Blimps
Politricks
Polmar's Perspective
Popular Mechanics
Rapid Fire
Raptor Watch
Red Team
Retro-Futuro
Robots
Roll Your Own
Sabra Tech
Ships and Subs
Snipertech
Space
Special Ops
Star Wars
Strategery
Stray Trons
Tactical Development
Terror Tech
The Deadlies
The Defense Biz
The Peoples' Site
The Sunday Paper
The Tanker Tango
The View from Av Week
Those Nutty Norks
Training and Sims
Trimble on the Case
Video Lounge
War Update
Ward'z Wonderz
You can run...

See all Archives
Newsletters

Edited by Christian Lowe | Contact

The Whirly Wonder

firescout-web.jpg

One question about this...

Is the Fire Scout really going anywhere programmatically?... Really?

It seems like a classic case of a Pentagon project on life support, bouncing from the Navy to the Marine Corps and now as part of the Army's (potentially doomed) FCS program.

Despite the upbeat press release, will be ever see these whirlybird drones in combat?

Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE:NOC) has successfully performed an engine run of the first U.S. Army MQ-8B Fire Scout Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV), the Class IV Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) in the Army's Future Combat Systems (FCS), at the company's Unmanned Systems Center in Moss Point, Miss.

"The engine run is a significant milestone for the FCS program. It marks completion of final assembly of the initial manufacturing phase of the first Army Fire Scout," said Joe Emerson, Northrop Grumman's FCS Fire Scout program manager. "We've been diligent in tracking our costs and meeting milestones such as this, which validates our commitment to quality, technical excellence, cost and delivery. We're definitely looking forward to fielding this aircraft."

The FCS Fire Scout has now completed the initial assembly process and will await delivery of mission avionics and sensors.

The MQ-8B Fire Scout has been flying under a Navy contract since December 2006, but this marked the first time aircraft operations were conducted at the Moss Point site...

...In August 2003, the Fire Scout was selected as the Class IV UAS for the Army's Future Combat Systems. The Fire Scout will be a key element of the Army's tactical intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance and targeting architecture, providing real-time imagery, data collection and dissemination at the brigade level.

Northrop Grumman is under a 10-year contract from The Boeing Company and Science Applications International Corporation, the Army's FCS lead systems integrators to develop the system architecture, produce MQ-8B Fire Scout air vehicles, perform system tests and evaluations, and help develop long-lead future requirements.

-- Christian

Comments

@Winstuun:
Nic. Let's remember that a conventional manned helicopter easily does these missions AND is capable of rescuing/ferrying people.

@Big D:
Tell me a single mission that really requires hovering over sea that's better done with a drone than with a manned helicopter. Dropping sonars for ASW and SAR missions are better done with manned platforms.
AEW doesn't require to hover as many non-VTOL AEW aircraft prove. SAR/GMTI radars the same. Maritime observation radars the same.
And so on.

As long as it's a helicopter. its blades will rotate as during flight. That means there's little difference from the stealth point of view whether the helicopter moves or hovers.

Btw, hovering for close-to-ground radar observation liek the Apaches are supposed to do with their longbow radar is to date impossible or at least utterly stupid with an unmanned platform.

Posted by: Sven Ortmann at May 29, 2007 03:06 PM


From looking at Northrop Grummans Website I would say that the Mission is: Surface Warfare, Anti-submarine warfare, Mine interdiction. Fire Scout is a Tactical ISR platform, Intel gathering, threat detection, beyond line of sight targeting and comms relay. The Navy plans on using Fire Scout as a mission package on the Litoral Combat Ship.

More info can be found at http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2007/05/the-fire-scout-vtuav-program-by-land-and-by-sea-updated/index.php

Posted by: Winstuun at May 29, 2007 05:08 AM


Long-duration recon with hover capability. It's the only thing that can really do that. Sometimes, you just need to park in the sky and sit there.

Posted by: Big D at May 26, 2007 08:30 PM


Like any other UAV, its mission is mostly reconn right now, but it could be used for resupply. You can send it into "hot" areas without risking a pilot. The Navy will probably be using it in support of the Marine Corp.

Posted by: Greg at May 25, 2007 05:24 PM


Perhaps the Fire Scout was more of a proof of concept for UAV-helicopters (and for landing on a carrier)? I wouldn't normally suggest such a thing, but like the rest of us, I can't seem to find a logical mission that the Predator or Global Hawk isn't better suited for.

Although - is the Fire Scout one of the earlier carrier-based UAVs? Maybe that is it's niche?

Posted by: Brad at May 25, 2007 01:16 PM


I was thinking the same thing?
What's a small chopper going to do for the navy?

I think the navy is doing the army a favour.

Posted by: Foreign.Boy at May 25, 2007 12:07 PM


What's the mission of this platform?

Posted by: Sven Ortmann at May 25, 2007 11:20 AM


Post a comment




Remember Me?


Please enter the code as seen in the image below to post your comment.