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Edited by Christian Lowe | Contact

Army Gets Sweet New Combat Threads

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PEO Soldier has now begun to outfit its troops with a sleek new "combat shirt" that is comfortable under body armor and also has flash-resistent properties to stave off the severe burns that can result from roadside bombs.

It looks pretty cool, and I know from interviews with PEO Soldier officials that they put a lot of thought into this new uniform item. I gotta say, one thing that's been a result of continued combat operations with such an adaptable enemy is the near-constant refining of services' gear. The Soldier of today looks pretty darn different from the Soldier of Kosovo days - or even from those of the kick off of OIF.

From our story on Military.com...

The flame-resistant ACS is in development for use under body armor. It is designed to replace two layers, the Army Combat Uniform jacket and moisture-wicking T-shirt, thus reducing bulk and heat stress.

"As providers of the world's best equipment to the world's best Soldiers, we collect and rely on Soldiers' input and ideas to constantly improve all of our products," said Brig. Gen. R. Mark Brown, Program Executive Officer Soldier. "All of our clothing and equipment is battle-proven and live-fire tested. Those labels can't be earned in a laboratory."

The ACS features a mock-turtleneck, long sleeves in the universal camouflage pattern, flat seams that reduce bulk and chafing and built-in anti-abrasion elbow pads. The shirt is moisture-wicking, anti-microbial and odor-resistant.

The latest version of the shirt includes upgrades based on Soldier feedback collected since the shirt was first distributed in the spring for limited-user evaluations.

"Even though we developed the Army Combat Shirt to be lighter, more comfortable and breathable, we listened to Soldiers who tested it and said they wanted it to be even more breathable and comfortable," said Maj. Clay Williamson, assistant product manager for clothing and individual equipment. "The fabric that made up the torso of the ACS was replaced with a fabric that provides breathability that is off the charts."

However, to retain modesty, the original fabric was maintained in the mid-chest area. Both fabrics have a four-way stretch.

Another change that increased breathability was replacing the elastic cuffs designed to keep out sand with adjustable cuffs similar to ACU jacket cuffs. The cuffs can be loosened for ventilation or tightened to keep out sand and other debris. Changes were also made to the neck band.

Although the ACS was designed to be worn under the Interceptor Body Armor, test participants noted the short breaks between patrols made it impractical to change into the ACU jacket. They wanted changes to the ACS that would identify them and their unit. In response, hook and loop tape was added to the right sleeve to accommodate a name tape, rank and infrared flag. The left sleeve also sports hook and loop tape for a unit patch.

The ACS with the most recent improvements will be available in late September for follow-on user evaluations. The shirt is still a developmental garment, and further fielding will be determined by the Department of the Army.

-- Christian

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Posted by: luxury watch at April 21, 2009 03:33 AM


oh yeah, everyone who wears one without wearing body armor just looks gay too... its meant to be worn UNDER body armor. its not so you can catch the eye of the fat chick sitting across the chow hall... or fat dude, whatever your prefrence. wear your ACU's and be thankful you get to sit in an air conditioned office.

Posted by: Ben at April 6, 2009 03:24 PM


heres the deal... i've worn it, its not bad but it sure isnt great. the arms dont breath at all, and they are so bulky with the pog padding that you cant bend your arms. the torso is SO strechy that you cant even take the damn thing off. the army strong logo is just super gay. i got this great idea! how bout we just carpet bomb ALL these mofos and get the hell back to living our lives!

Posted by: Ben at April 6, 2009 03:19 PM


For all of you who are confused about the wear of the ACS here is MILPERS message regarding the wear of the ACS and the POC for this policy.

From: DAADMINISTRATOR@PTSC.PENTAGON.MIL [mailto:DAADMINISTRATOR@PTSC.PENTAGON.MIL] On Behalf Of PTC WASHINGTON DC//ALARACT//
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:45 AM
To: DCS G1 Agency Mail
Subject: ALARACT 207/2008
Importance: Low
UNCLASSIFIED//
PRECEDENCE TO: ROUTINE DTG: 221242Z AUG 08
PRECEDENCE CC: ROUTINE
TYPE: DMS SIGNED/ENCRYPTED
FROM PLA: PTC WASHINGTON DC//ALARACT//
FROM D/N: C:US,O:U.S. Government,OU:DoD,OU:ARMY,OU:Organizations,
L:CONUS,L:WASHINGTON DC,OU:DA PENTAGON
TELECOMMUNICATIONS(uc),OU:ALARACT RELEASE AUTHORITY(UC)
SUBJECT: ALARACT 207/2008
TEXT:
UNCLASSIFIED//
THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN BY THE PENTAGON TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER ON BEHALF OF DA WASHINGTON DC//DAPE-HRI//
SUBJECT: WEAR POLICY FOR THE ARMY COMBAT SHIRT (ACS)
1. THIS MESSAGE SERVES AS IMPLEMENTING INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ARMY COMBAT SHIRT.
2. ON 1 APR 08, THE ACS WAS APPROVED FOR FIELDING TO DEPLOYED SOLDIERS IN IRAQI, AFGHANISTAN, AND KUWAIT. CURRENTLY THE ACS HAS THE "ARMY STRONG" LOGO STENCILED ON THE FRONT OF THE SHIRT. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THE "ARMY STRONG" LOGO WILL BE REMOVED, AS OTHER BRANCHES OF SERVICE WILL ALSO BE PURCHASING THE ACS FOR WEAR WITH BODY ARMOR. THE "TEAM SOLDIER CERTIFIED GEAR" LOGO WILL BE HEAT TRANSFERRED IN TO THE LABEL INSIDE OF THE SHIRT TO DEMONSTRATE AUTHENTICITY ONCE THE "ARMY STRONG" LOGO IS REMOVED.
3. THE ACS IS A UNIFORM ENHANCEMENT DESIGNED TO PROVIDE FLAME PROTECTION FOR INDIVIDUAL SOLDIERS, WHILE MAXIMIZING BREATHABILITY, MOISTURE MANAGEMENT AND COMFORT WHEN WORN AS A SYSTEM INCLUDING INTERCEPTOR BODY ARMOR (IBA) AND FIRE RESISTANT UNIFORM TROUSERS SUCH AS THE FIRE RESISTANT ARMY COMBAT UNIFORM (FRACU) OR ARMY AIRCREW COMBAT UNIFORM (A2CU) TROUSERS.
4. THE ACS IS CONSTRUCTED WITH FLAME RESISTANT FABRICS. THE MORE SUBSTANTIAL SLEEVE AND SHOULDER FABRIC PROVIDES GREATER PROTECTION OF EXPOSED AREAS. THE LIGHER MOISTURE MANAGEMENT "TRUNK" PROVIDES FLAME PROTECTION, WHILE MAXIMIZING BREATHABILITY UNDER THE INDIVIDUAL IBA.
5. THE ACS IS DESIGNED TO BE WORN WITH THE IBA AND IS CLASSIFIED AS A COMBAT SHIRT. THE RIGHT SHOULDER SLEVE OF THE ACS IS EQUIPPED WITH HOOK AND LOOP FOR THE WEARING OF THE SOLDIER'S LAST NAMETAPE AND RANK INSIGNIA.
6. THE SHOULDER SLEEVE INSIGNIA AND THE INFRARED SUBDUED FLAG WILL BE WORN ON THE LEFT SHOULDER SLEEVE.
7. THE ACS WILL BE WORN TUCKED INTO THE TROUSERS.
8. THE ACS CAN BE WORN AS A STAND ALONE ITEM AND IS DESIGNED TO BE WORN NEXT-TO-SKIN, WITHOUT A T-SHIRT, IN HOT WEATHER. HOWEVER, THIS DOES NOT PRECLUDE WEAR OF FEMALE UNDERGARMENTS OR T-SHIRTS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR WEAR.
9. THE ACS CAN BE LAUNDERED NORMALLY AND DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT.
10. THE ACS WILL ONLY BE WORN IN A DEPLOYED OR FIELD ENVIRONMENT.
11. POC FOR UNIFORM POLICY IS SGM K. EASLEY, DSN 225-5406, COMM
(703) 695-5406. E-MAIL IS KATRINA.EASLEY@HQDA.ARMY.MIL.
12. THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE DCS, G-1.
13. EXPIRATION DATE CANNOT BE DETERMINED.
===============================================================

Posted by: Derek at February 2, 2009 09:19 PM


Well, I'm sure someone else (likely fifty other people) have said this already, but I think there were a few small details I would have tossed in that others didn't.

I hate ACU's. Noise discipline? No chance. Bump into someone, you can exchange unit patches by the briefest of contact and everyone within 500 meters knows where you are. Let's leave the ACU's for garrison duty. The color and pattern works really well - but only about 2 hours out of the day, the rest of the time you'd be safer painting yourself a bright yellow and wandering around a bit in Lithuanian spec ops mode, naked but for ruck, IBA and IBLE, weapons and the dirt bikes they liberated from the Cubans.

Posted by: Thomas Melas at January 4, 2009 10:35 PM


First off, its POGS...Personnel Other then Grunts. Secondly to say that only SF, Rangers, and Infantry should have say on combat uniforms specs is damn retarded. As an Artilleryman, I have spent 2 deployments doing combat patrols; dismounted and mounted...so INF LT...get real!! The ACS is a good concept and idea, but unlike all military gear it will need improvement ie: soft skin humvees to M1114s to M1151s to MRAPS and Strikers. But I do agree that the Army wates too much time and money on useless gear and ideas. The ACS is a great idea that needs work and will come around in time. And one more question..if you need noise discipline, why would you have something you need in a velcro pocket?

Posted by: SGTGUNBUNNY at December 14, 2008 02:34 PM


Only SF, Rangers and infantry soldiers should have input on the specs of a combat uniform. POAGS while wonderful for supporting the mission do not spend the same amount of energy eqipping themselves for solely combat functions. Gunslingers invest time, thought and trainging into the simplest of performance events (mag changes, immediate action, fire commands etc.) The guys who know how to use their kit effectively and understand what its like to sweat your nuts off all day in a uniform that doesn't breath with a piece of velcro rubbing your neck raw and a blown out crotch seam all the while standing out amidst the mud colored buildings and terrain should be the ones offering recommendations on how to correct the ACU debacle. Bottom line is the ACU is a heaping pile of shit and should be fixed before we worry about a new .50 cal machine gun when the M2 is just fine or invest thousands on goofy XM8s. BTW, HK 416 gasless uppers with a 6.8mm configuration would also be a sound investment in case any of you project warrior dip shits ever surf the web to see how many grunts hate your shit.

Posted by: INF LT. at December 6, 2008 11:41 AM


I have one question? is multi cam being used through out the army. I s this being issued?

Posted by: red65black at November 15, 2008 12:24 AM


I have spent 3 consecutive tours in Iraq..... The uniform is fitting to everything else the army does. It doesn't make sense. None of it. 1) its meant to be worn under the armor and breathe better... How come the only parts that breathe are covered by the armor? 2) Whats with the placement of the name tape and rank... if you are wearing your gear then you already have it on your IBA/IOTV. I agree there is no sense in wearing Nomex around the fob if you are not on mission but seriously... on the sleeve? 3) IR Tabs that has velcro that stays open just as long as you have your finger on it, good one guys. 4) Still getting no where with the pattern, I have an idea. How about I put on an assless banana suit and just go walking through sadr city singing hymns. Urban warfare... nothing on us is concealed anymore at all. They see us, they know our policies, they know how to get us and get away and we can't do anything about it. Just give us a uniform so that when I go take a steamy one off the side of Tampa I don't stick out like a fag at a bachelor party. We don't get the luxury of doing anything without breaking some standard and now the Army is making sure we are even more uncomfortable with their upgrades. Thank you, I will take my ETS because I am done with the piddly games

Posted by: Dustin at October 13, 2008 06:03 PM


The new Army Combat Shirts are the dumbest thing ever. Starting with the logo. It looks like something that some joe would get at a recruiter's office as a thank you for joining The Army. To add more. The sleeves are very tight and keep the heat in and don't allow your arms to air out. As a conclusion. The collar on the shirt is very anoying and feels as if i had 550 cord tied tightly around my neck. I wish that The Army would have came out with the same asc that The Marines have. They seem to have a solution to all those glitches i described.

Posted by: Dwight at August 15, 2008 03:29 PM


I'm a deploied soldier and these things are great combined with the new armor

Posted by: derrick at July 25, 2008 05:03 PM


I hate to rain on all the multi cam people out there, but that camo isn't much better then ACU. It finished fourth out of five in the trials. It's great for dry eniviroments but doesn't work well anywhere else. The ACU has worked well at night it doesn't, unless of course some one washed thiers with the wrong detergent. Yes I've been in combat, and used it many times afterward. Keep in mind the entire uniform is only desinged to last six months in the combat zone.

Posted by: Clark at July 22, 2008 09:08 AM


I really hope the comment about wearing this ACU for identification and not for camoflage because we fight in the open and only urban ops is from some pot smoking burnout and not a Soldier.

Get real guy, have you ever been in a gun fight? Have you ever been to Afghanistan? Do you understand that the ACU was meant to be a combat uniform, one in which to fight with and not for ID purposes like some American Legion vet? Camoflage is not meant to make someone disappear like the Predator, it is meant to help blend into the environment and break up a defined silhouette. The ACU does not accomplish this very well. Not sure what was meant by getting concealment at night, but if you took the time to view the ACU with NVGs, you will notice it glows. Plus, being the light color that it is, the ACU does not do much to blend in during hours of limited visibility. Additionally, velcro on a uniform is a bad idea. It is hard to maintain noise discipline in a patrol base when you have to rip open a velcro pocket (yes, us light infantry guys still use patrol bases in combat).

Bottom Line, the ACU is not conducive to a combat environment. The BDU/DCU uniform was much better suited for combat. There is no such thing as an all terrain camoflage pattern. When my unit deployed to Afghanistan, we went in DCUs and wished we had the BDUs to help blend in with the terrain. Our AO was RC-East, where there was lots of foliage there.

Unfortunately, the ACUs were designed by people with little to no combat experience. I hope this will be a lesson learned on future uniform changes.

Posted by: MJL at June 26, 2008 02:52 AM


The flag is worn with the blue/stars facing forword because it symbolizes the flag moving forword as if being carried on a flag pole, when the army is advancing the flag is worn that way..I have the ACS, I like it but as with many of you the grey/sage pattern is useless....it makes for nice pajammas though.

Posted by: fever at June 25, 2008 05:58 PM


Although I disagree with the pattern and quality of ACU's as do many MULTI CAM fans, I am interested in the ACS as it does provide flame protection and it is cooler. Safety x 2. Does anyone have info on the limits and conditions of wear. How about a AR 670-1 update? FOB Pheonix in Kabul, AFG alledgidly has a no ACS policy as an outer garmet as it is alledged do others. Interesting, it must be a hard call for the leadership to deny comfort and protection.

Posted by: smaj at June 23, 2008 04:51 AM


John, you're stupid. Camoflauge is intended to conceal, disrupt and blend. The ACU does not, multicam does. Since color doesn't matter, how 'bout you take your dumb ass on patrol wearing flourescent orange. And while you're at it a big sign that reads "Darwinism at its finest". Your comments disregard any bit of credibilty carried on the topic. Lastly, newsflash smart guy. The UCP pattern on the ACU was only selected to save the Army money and to compete with Marine Corps. recruiting since they already had a digital scheme. The sad thing is that almost 70 percent of soldiers know the ACU pattern is shit and it looks stupid.

Posted by: Veteran at June 14, 2008 12:11 PM


This new uniform is nice it is cool and feels good to have on. We just got these I like it very much. Its met to be worn underbody armor I don’t know where people get of saying the army logo makes a good target as no one can see it if you have your armor on. Far as the comments on the ACU pattern I don’t think it is met to hide anything it easily identifies you as an American soldier. All our combat is done in the open or in an urban environment. It not the jungle where you have places to melt away in to the brush. The only concealment you get really is at night.

Posted by: John at June 11, 2008 04:52 PM


cadets aren't allowed to post comments on the type of uniform we wear. but i concur, the flippin' shirt's nice, but we should switch to multicam. it's mucho bettero. if he was in multicam in that same picture, he'd be damn near invisible.

Posted by: AttilaEomer at May 17, 2008 03:43 PM


Good concept, bad camouflage. It's funny that the army wants to copy crye in so many areas except quality, both in design and pattern. We tried to copy the Marines and now we look like retards. Who thought sage green, grey and desert tan would mesh well together. And for those of you who want to say quit crying and ruck up should shut the fuck up. If we embraced complacency and maintenance of the status quo we'd all still be carrying M1 Garands and wearing brain buckets. So if you like your shitty ACUs then fine fuck off. For the gunslingers who want shit that performs call PEO Soldier at 703-704-2802 and tell them we want Multicam. Maybe Army Times will report on it rather than stroking off the brass with what they want to hear; like "retention at an all time high".

Posted by: Cross Rifles at May 7, 2008 08:28 PM


Quit your crying. That Crye precision shirt is garbage compared to the real deal.

Posted by: mike at April 28, 2008 09:09 AM


nice to meet you

Posted by: wowpowerleveling at April 15, 2008 02:58 AM


Does anyone know the regulation on this shirt? I cant find any memo's or policy letters, or anything relating it to 670-1? I was at one FOB wearing it from my truck to the tent after I got off mission, and they told me that it was not allowed to be worn there on their fob? Umm. . . why create a shirt to where while deployed for mission under the armor, if you cannot wear it at all on the freakin fob? I'll keep checking back for updates, thanks!

Posted by: TCD2 at March 29, 2008 11:06 AM


Yeah, it is great, but I have been to two FOB's where they told me I wasn't allowed to wear it. Why does the Army invent something great and comfortable for a soldier to help them, and then the FOB commander say that it cannot be worn on their FOB? I do guntruck missions throughout Iraq, and from the past two months I have been wearing it, it is great, but two FOB's have now banned it, what is the deal with that?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 29, 2008 10:56 AM


The face shield you're talking about might be the one from DOWN EAST INC.

Posted by: Timothy A. Bokousky at March 19, 2008 01:16 PM


Besides Massif.com, anyone know where we could purchase these yet?

Posted by: flood at November 13, 2007 08:56 PM


If you do a Google Search on Army Combat Shirt, a link pops up where you can find more info: massif.com

Posted by: Jane at October 24, 2007 02:17 PM


I WANT ONE!!!

Posted by: Chad Primeaux at October 17, 2007 04:49 PM


I just took one of these shirts for a test run. their great so far. the turtleneck helps with the neck protecter that i have to ware and the form miting fabricdosent bunch under my gear. id like the sleeves a bit bigger so that i can roll them in the day if I need to. As for the logo I totaly agree it needs to go.

Posted by: andrew at October 7, 2007 10:31 PM


"Oh come on, they need to credit Crye Precision. It seems like a blatant ripoff of the company's Crye Combat Shirt."

http://www.cryeprecision.com/product1.asp?P=CS1

I agree! Plus Crye developed a much better universal Camo pattern, called Multi Cam, than ANYONE else. It was tested under Project Scorpion at the same time as the ACU but for some stupid reason the Army liked the ACU better........Dumb Asses...... All in all though I think that if they are going to start making a shirt for us to wear under our armor instead of the full on ACU top............why have the top at all! The shirt can be our new top. It would be more comfortable, more effective in use and practicality and still provide full body camouflage and concealment.

Posted by: Josh Morrow at October 3, 2007 10:38 AM


Ok, It's an alright idea. As being on an Army ROTC scholarship, to be an officer in 3 years, I do believe the ACU's need a new pattern. Turns out, the Marine Corps digital pattern is highly effective in the woodland/swamp enviro and they keep their Sand cammo which is perfect. (Our ACU's our only effective in the (desert)mountainious terrain and places like Baghdad.)
Seems like those PEO guys are worrying about looks and add ons to this ACU. Good idea for when we hit Iraq, but to erase the BDU and jungle warfare (SF) school even though we're still doing OPS in South America? These pencil heads need to be a little more realistic.
Yes, I do agree that money needs to be spent on better equipment. The new Cougar :) and body armour.
And the Army Blues.... That really irritates me.
All in all, Salute!
>>>~----~>>

Posted by: "Slick" at September 25, 2007 11:50 AM


My Wife got a few of these just a few days back. They are really nice and under armor they are much nicer than the double layer. They breath well, wick water away, stretch well, and have silver threading in the right places to keep the smell down. All in all this is a great bit of gear.

Posted by: the Cenobyte at September 24, 2007 02:28 PM


Why in an arena like this people always take shots at other services. Late time i looked all services are in all locations. Remember we're all fighting together for one cause, The American people. I can care less how we look, Just do your best and get the job done.

Posted by: Raymond at September 23, 2007 04:06 PM


I wish more would be done for equipment instead of all these fancy looking clothes

Posted by: SSG AIRBORNE at September 23, 2007 03:46 PM


I wish more would be done for equipment instead of all these fancy looking clothes

Posted by: SSG AIRBORNE at September 23, 2007 03:40 PM


I'm glad the Marine Corps doesn't have to have fashion shows to maintain it's creditability. Seriously though, why can't our tax dollars be better spent on better body armor or vehicles that can take a hit from I.E.Ds and etc., but I agree the tshirt is fine. I think I'd rather sweat my ars off in armor or a vehicle that'll keep me alive. All this extra crap....whatever.

Posted by: Adrian at September 23, 2007 12:26 AM


Back in the day ,we already had the ultimate body armor undergarment. It's called a T-shirt,lightweight,sweatwicking and comfortable under body armor.

Posted by: grenadavet at September 22, 2007 12:30 PM


OK, it sounds great. Now what was the reason for velcro patches? If the ACU top wont be worn under body armor can we return to sew on patches? Please

Posted by: RICHARD KIGGINS at September 21, 2007 10:45 AM


I think it looks pretty cool, could do without the designeresque logo in the chest though. A rank insignia would look better and more professional worn on the chest.

Posted by: Cameron Gill at September 21, 2007 06:24 AM


Main thing is, it needs to BREATHE. I seriously doubt it will be lightweight AND Fire-flash resistant.Something needs to be done about all the Yahoos running around the AO with Sand colored flight suits on...stupidest idea that has come out of this fiasco of a war uniform wise so far. Remark about the Darth Vader mask...it can be seen worn (primarily) by UH-60 Crewchiefs and door gunners. Its silly, they last about 7 flights and serve no purpose other than making you look "scary". Another taxpayer funded boondoggle.

Posted by: desertsnake1991 at September 21, 2007 06:00 AM


Great idea. Make it all camo and get it to the troops, ASAP! The ACU top is just too darn hot anyway. ACU sleeves down and worn under body armor and it's a major issue. Soldiers need to stay cool. The new gear will reduce heat injuries and improve soldier performance. To the people that make the decisions, make it happen.

Posted by: BludBlu at September 20, 2007 09:37 PM


Ok Willie, you must not have read about how it is made for use "underneath the interceptor body armor." I think this is a great idea. Soldiers today are wearing too much gear out on the battlefield, and all the gear together raises the body temperature several degrees. Cut out the logo in the chest though, because it is just tacky. Soldiers shouldn't be wearing it around, they should only wear it when they have the IBA on.

Posted by: David at September 20, 2007 08:02 PM


Okay besides the shameless advertising on the front, useful to the sniper who has in in sights to know that you are indeed U.S. Army, my beef is the nice big star "target" center chest. Yeah that's some sweeeeet camo there, baby!! But at least the mock turtleneck should appeal to the ipod generation since his Steveness wears one to every Apple event. Next our boys need an iphone to call in an airstrike or to play some sweet games during the airstrike and of course the Levi's Steve Jobs wears, too!!

Posted by: Willie at September 20, 2007 05:29 PM


What are the stats for it? I know it won't give an armor class bonus, but will it confer DR vs. heat damage?

Posted by: Kevin Halse at September 20, 2007 04:37 PM


I hate to also be off-topic,but I remember about 2 or more years ago that Kiran Chetry on Fox News was talking to a former solder & Iraq War Vet(he must have been in his twenties) who made a protective face guard that looked like a cross between a motocross face shield & (for lack of a better description) Darth Vader's face mask to be worn in conjunction with the new helmets our troops are currently wearing. I never could find any more information on this face shield or who this person was. Anybody have any clue what I'm talking about?

Posted by: Roy Smith at September 20, 2007 03:27 PM


Good Morning Folks,

Regardless of color or style it's refreshing that the military is finally adressing the issue of flame retarding in combat uniforms.

ALLONS,
Byron Skinner

Posted by: Byron Skinner at September 20, 2007 12:50 PM


"However, to retain modesty, the original fabric was maintained in the mid-chest area."

Huh? "Modesty"? Whose modesty? Females? Fatties?
Besides, that change defeats the purpose of this garment; otherwise why replace just the chest area with the stretch fabric at all? Why adopt this shirt at all?

"Both fabrics have a four-way stretch."
The regular ACU fabric is NOT four-way stretch. But the very concept of this shirt requires it to be stretchable. The first vetrsion (like the Crye) featured full torso stretch fabric. Yet more Army stupidity, like the ACU "Universal Cammo" Moon cammo...

Posted by: Wes at September 20, 2007 10:03 AM


I don't know why the Army Marketing logo needs to be on the shirt but otherwise it looks like a good idea.

Posted by: Raraavis at September 19, 2007 04:54 PM


wow more bullshit in ACU patten? didnt the ACU come out of PEO soldier? color me unimpressed after that pos with pockets that stop working after 15-20 wash cycles. lets not even talk about how effective "universal camo" is.

Posted by: slntax at September 19, 2007 04:52 PM


And notice how nicely the pattern stands out from that woodland background!

Posted by: Jack O'Derry at September 19, 2007 04:40 PM


JRS...

Yep, that shirt's made by Crye. Their design and some manufacture for the Army. Good catch.

Jeff...

The reason why troops wear the flag patch with the blue (stars) field forward is because that's the regulation when you're deployed. Since OIF, the Pentagon has authorized all troops - whether actually deployed or not - to wear the deployed flag patch in solidarity with those down range.

Posted by: Christian Lowe at September 19, 2007 03:59 PM


Jeff.. Its as simple as what would the flag do if you were charging forward? It would fly like that, not the other way. We don't want a retreating flag now do we?

Posted by: Mike at September 19, 2007 03:58 PM


It's so the flag looks like it's flying in th wind when walking forward. Basically it looks weird when the flag is the "proper" one on the right side. it looks like it's flying backward.

Posted by: JRS at September 19, 2007 02:17 PM


This is probably not a totally relevant issue to this item, but does anyone know when or why the American military uniform standards changed the way the flag is sewn on the left shoulder, so that now the blue field with the stars is on the right instead of the left?

Posted by: Jeff at September 19, 2007 02:02 PM


Available in time for the fall lineup **smirk**

Posted by: Foreign.Boy at September 19, 2007 01:56 PM


Oh come on, they need to credit Crye Precision. It seems like a blatant ripoff of the company's Crye Combat Shirt.

http://www.cryeprecision.com/product1.asp?P=CS1

Posted by: JRS at September 19, 2007 01:48 PM


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