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America Talks but is the Navy Listening?

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As of last October, the United States has had an up-to-date, formally articulated maritime strategy for the first time since the Reagan years. I believe you owe it to yourself to read “A Cooperative Strategy for 21st Century Seapower” which at only 20 pages, including many great color pics, is refreshingly lively and concise.

Instead of a war-plan to defeat the Eurasian mono-threat of the USSR, our nautical services are now charged with sharing the workload and costs, with their counterparts in other nations, in order to prevent -- or at least mitigate -- human suffering, strife, terror, and war anywhere on the planet within range of the sea.

I was in the audience at the Naval War College, Newport, RI, in June, 2006 when then-CNO Admiral Mike Mullen first called for developing this New Maritime Strategy via a “Conversation with America.” The idea was to solicit lots of suggestions (and, yes, criticisms) from civilian folks all across the country who had some knowledge of or interest in naval matters, ocean-borne commerce, and maritime security. (This ought to be all of us, since 90% of the world’s trade goods travel by sea.) Mullen soon put Vice Admiral John Morgan, Deputy CNO for Information, Plans and Strategy in charge of this ambitious undertaking.

The Conversation with America was dismissed by some pundits, almost from the outset, as just politically-driven grandstanding or a public relations ploy by the Navy. Having attended some half dozen conferences as the process rolled along, throwing my own two cents in more than once, I beg to differ. The latest event in this Great Seapower Dialogue was a talk and dinner with about 50 people last night at NYC’s Cornell Club, where VADM Morgan spoke for ten minutes and then fielded Q&A for an hour. Yours truly was there, and was favorably impressed. The discussion was lively, at times even passionate. Morgan –- an effective public speaker –- answered every difficult question head on, with no evasion or double-talk, while absorbing valuable suggestions and acknowledging some serious admonishments.

Don’t get me wrong. The New Maritime Strategy is by no means perfect. For one good discussion of its evident flaws and drawbacks, see Chris Cavas’s “U.S. Roles Out New Maritime Strategy” in the October 17, 2007 Defense News. One thing that frankly puzzled me from the start was that the strategy was being developed only after an official 30-year Shipbuilding Plan was laid out and then set virtually in stone –- shouldn’t you know your strategy before you decide what your Navy needs to look like? (Apparently, the pressing need to control and stabilize costs is what made the cart come before the horse here.)

But I want to talk about the conversation process itself, not the end-result document. My impression is that the Navy certainly did listen. Please allow me a personal annecdote to illustrate.

The kickoff conference for the Conversation occurred at the Naval War College in November of ’06. The Spruance Auditorium was packed with an overflow crowd, about 1,200 people. Perhaps unfortunately, this was just after the Election Day where Democrats made a bit of a comeback in Congress. There was an odd tone of euphoric “peace in our time” among the outside academics and consultants whom the NWC had invited to be on the program. It came across as an article of faith that America would never again, ever, need to fight a major war. Global love was in the air and everywhere. I kid you not. By lunchtime I was rather disturbed. I ate with a couple of retired submariners who agreed, so it wasn’t just me. The first panel after lunch, refreshingly enough, used the word “threat” more than once, and seemed to suggest that some other countries might actually be or might become our enemies.

During the Q&A of this panel, I stood and asked a question, because I was honestly confused. “Since all missions of the U.S. Navy, such as strategic deterrence, and humanitarian aid, and even counter-terror containment, can be achieved if and only if the Navy has strong assets and skillsets for the core competency of major warfighting, why is major warfighting getting what seems to be such short shrift today? The meeting is almost over, and I think this panel was the first time I’ve heard mentioned the possible future existence of big nation-state combat threats.” The speakers backed off, explaining they hadn’t meant to say that serious threats or major wars were in the cards. Oh my.

After this kickoff, the Conversation with America held its planned series of interactive meetings in major cities. I went to one of the last of these, in March ’07, at the New York Athletic Club, in NYC. The Conversation had course corrected drastically. Major Warfighting was right up there, front and center, as a critical part of the budding New Maritime Strategy’s formative precepts. The final document, on page 10, states:

“While war with another great power strikes many as improbable, the near-certainty of its ruinous effects demands that it be actively deterred using all elements of national power.”

What might at first sound like mere wishy-washy compromise language is actually something of a breakthrough in developmental methodology and public presentation, namely the practical use of risk analysis concepts in formulating maritime strategy –- a topic which, admittedly, is near and dear to my heart as a former actuarial management consultant, and which was mentioned by one panelist in November ’06 and again in March ‘07. Instead of the Navy, now under new CNO Admiral Gary Roughead, trying to eke out a concensus best-estimate scenario and then optimizing everything to that one scenario as if it were certain, six months of intense open conversations (as well as heavy staff work and input from flag officers and the wider military) led to a clear recognition that the exact scenario of what the future will look like is impossible to know until it’s too late, and a big war is one not-entirely-implausible scenario. We do indeed really need to look across a broad spectrum of possible scenarios, and pay careful attention to those which, though the majority see them as unlikely, would have catastrophic effects on humanity if they occurred because we were caught unprepared.

The Conversation with America is by no means over. VADM Morgan announced that a whole additional wave of meetings is now underway. Why? A major issue raised by participants during the first go-round, and outspokenly reinforced by yesterday evening’s guests, is that most of the attendees had come already convinced that we need a strong Navy, so that Mullen, Roughead, Morgan, et. al. were listening to their own choir. The new set of interactive get-togethers during 2008, not part of the original plan, will reach out to much wider crowds, some of whom will undoubtedly be challenging to converse with. These include a number of university faculty and student bodies, trade associations, civic entities, and groups with diverse minority demographics.

As VADM Morgan said at the Cornell Club, “The Conversation with America is meant to engage people, not convince them.” The Navy is listening.

-- Joe Buff

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As a post Coastie, I see nothing wrong with humanitarian missions as long as they can break loose in a hurry. The CG is under DOD now, Not DOT like they used to be. After 9/11 their pretty strained and I think some of the load should be taken by the navy. The infusion of new ships,weaps and equipment has helped alot,but its still a small service with alot on its plate. I agree with Joe that helping keeps them from wanting to kill us.
With Iran making ugly noises,and China and Russia's navys getting big an bad I think more and better is prudent. Carrier's are great for projecting power in a conventional war. But one well placed nuke takes the whole group out. I dont like that thought. I think we really need to concentrate on beefing up our sub force and increasing its tech and capabilitys.

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The "Conversation with America" is an interesting take - but it is rooted in an 80's approach. When the new Maritime Strategy was released in October (and BTW, with some minor asides, I'm a pretty strong supporter) there was a very interesting and prolonged discussion in the blogsphere hosted primarily by a handful of naval- and national security strategy/policy oriented sites. Many of us are or were active duty or continue in some form of federal service and as such, have a contributory role to play in advocating for or supporting the MS.

One of the features of this discussion was the participation of the Navy lead who discussed at length a good deal of the background and whys and wherefores of how the document came to be - a key factor, I think, in convincing some folks who might otherwise have come down against the document to support it instead. Don't get me wrong - the auditorium and dinner scene is fine and there's a place for it. But big Navy, and OPNAV N3/5 in particular, needs to tune in to the 'sphere and turn up the participation if they want to reach a wider audience in a more timely fashion.
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(for those that would like to read some of the aforementioned discussion, go to http://steeljawscribe.com and follow the link for "The Maritime Strategy" under the "Pages" heading in the margin.)

Posted by: Steeljaw Scribe at January 11, 2008 11:22 AM


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It's funny, but when they came out with the Ticonderoga AEGIS cruisers a while back they used an existing hull design and went from there. Nothing revolutionary other than the radar, which is pretty friggin awesome in it's own right.

Because of the complexity of a Navy ship, we need an evolutionary design to shipbuilding. Revolutionary designs just don't seem to be working for us right now.

The Nimitz class is another example of evolutionary design. And then we can refit the other ships in the class as we deem necessary with the new technology.

Just a thought.

DC2

Posted by: DC2 Jennings at January 11, 2008 07:45 AM


The ability to project force, whether real, or implied, is a vital part of the US Navy's mission. Has been from day one of this country, and will be as long as we are a nation.

The ability to project power over the seas (roughly 75% of the planet's surface) is critical to our nation's survival, both militarily and economically.

Personally, I'm not real thrilled with this plan of theirs, but they have the scrambled eggs on their hats, not me.

IMHO, we need to have both a balanced blue and brown water navy and NOT let either slip over the years, like we did with the brownwater Navy post-Vietnam. Both are critical, and should not be abandoned. But I think that the techno wizards need to figure out how to use some of the newer hull designs and modular shipbuilding techniques to make a more flexible fleet.

The one ship design does all approach isn't always the best way to go, but as DC2 has said before, we desparately need more specialized ASW ships, and I think we need some KISS simple shore battery support (155mm artillery to support the Marines) and other gunships better designed to protect our fleets against swarm attacks like happened this week.

How tough would it be to set up a trimaran hull with 4-6 CIWS and other off the shelf gun systems? They'd be relatively cheap, easy to build and would work wonders against speedboats, pirates and other smaller threats. It wouldn't be the best for blue water, but in the littoral, especially in tight spaces like the Straits of Hormuz, I think it could help the fleet a LOT.

Let the Admirals dream about having their DDX super whiz bang toys: in the real world we need some simple solutions for current threats. Because as we saw with the Cole, it doesn't take much to blow a hole in the side of one of our 'Cans. Give them some support --they might just need it sooner or later.

Posted by: EM2(SS) at January 10, 2008 09:05 PM


Carl S.: Good post, thank much! Here's my try at an explanation: Alas our vanquishing of USSR was temporary, Russian Navy is making big comback under Putin Regime. China's naval expansion is also impressive: They now have the biggest -- by numbers -- sub fleet in the world. And other countries with wealth (Japan, India, who next?) are spending more than ever on defense, w. a bigger portion of their budgets than ever now going into their navies -- not their armies.

Remember, carriers are still (and always will be) our only reliably available in-theater airbases-at-sea, rapidly deployable, replenishable underway, and w. immense shuttle-bombing capability. Subs are always needed for ASW, ISR & other super-spy stuff, nuclear deterrence, & Spec Ops which are all as important in the GWOT as they were in the Cold War. (Also Navy is right now figuring out how best to do conventional deterrence, and 21st-century nuclear deterrence against the whole spectrum of such threats.) And if you engage a terrorist/pirate ship, you need decisively superior force, which means an LCS or frigate and up depending on hostile force individual unit size and numbers in a hostile "swarm." (It would not be that easy to cripple a supertanker taken over by an al Qaeda suicide crew w. WMDs aboard -- use a cruiser's 5" main guns, not some 3rd world coast guard's .50 cal?)

I think the more Coast Guard-ly missions which USN is doing now are best seen in these contexts:

1. They're already out on the high seas, doing more warfighting-like and intel or deterrence stuff, so if they're free & there's a disaster somewhere, by all means use for humanitarian aid.
2. Big naval units do have lots of capacity, and prepositioned materiel on board, re food, medical, & tents/sleeping bags, etc. So they get there "fustest, with the mostest" in a disaster, which is good.
3. Quelling post-disaster social chaos with mercy missions helps squelch lawlessness & despair, which otherwise would challenge weaker governments and breed terrorism. "A stitch in time."
4. Being nice to other people, when we can, does help keep them from wanting to kill us all.

In short, we really do need a Big Navy at sea and operating 24/7/365. Mayhaps also the Blue Water vs. Green Water distinctions are obsolescing. The Littoral Combat Ship is oceangoing. And thanks to the great reach of aircraft, UVAVs, UUVs, missiles, SEALs in SDVs, & so on, the big units like CVN and SSGN have persistence and power projection thru littorals and coastal fronts and far inland anywhere.

Make sense?

Posted by: Joe Buff at January 10, 2008 07:24 PM


Joe,

It seems to me that we are slowly turning the Navy into a deployed Coast Guard. Perhaps because the Navy has effectively vanquished the Soviet blue water threat the Navy has been forced to find reasons to exist. The result is an odd matchup of missions and equipment. Is a warship really a good way to deliver humanitarian aid? Does it really make sense to use a warship (expensive, large crew) to deal with pirates or are we doing this because the ship and crew really have nothing better to do?

Posted by: Carl Soderholm at January 10, 2008 05:58 PM


i think this is a pretty fantastic way of getting fresh ideas from people who aren't entrenched within the military or government community. although i'll probably never be scholarly enough in maritime operations to be able to contribute, i look forward to further reports!

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Posted by: james at January 10, 2008 12:33 PM


hey yall im readin the ACS21CS now but before work this mornin i read this and it got me thinkin about our ships navy and entire strategy of naval warfare
its from the japan today website
(IN today's IHT got me thinking a bit:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/09/opinion/edstern.php

"In a war game in 2002, Lieutenant General Paul Van Riper of the Marines was called from retirement to lead a surrogate Iranian force defending against a U.S. attack. The general was recruited for his special talent, devising creative ways to fight stronger, technologically superior opponents.

Using motorbike messengers to keep his communications secure from high-tech eavesdropping, he launched a surprise attack on the U.S. Navy from a fleet of small, fast missile boats.

The barrage was intended to saturate U.S. anti-missile radars, allowing at least a few missiles to reach their targets. This worked perfectly. A U.S. aircraft carrier and 15 other warships went to the bottom.

It was a rout of the Donald Rumsfeld theory of high-tech warfare. In response, the Department of Defense stopped the game, changed the rules, and pretended nothing had happened. By so doing, the department reprised the first act in the worst naval defeat in U.S. history.")

ive always wondered about our ability to defend against missiles and also torpedos i read a report long ago the brits tested the phalanx system and found its radar got confused with waves. and well isnt there some new design needed in our warships like more defensive weaponry more armor(yes i love the iowa class should let the marines borrow them heard about a refit theory that removed the aft 16in gun and replaced it with a deck for helos and harriers/jsf)anyways how safe are our ships anyways are able to fight a modern war even with iranian navy? Matbe its time we consentrated our ship designs around being great at a specific task and not ok at a bunch of otheres anyways just a though

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