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Edited by Christian Lowe | Contact

More Army Armor Woes

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I'm sure you all have already seen this, but here's a story we ran as our lead item at Military.com this morning:

DoD Audit Finds Body Armor Buys Flawed

The Army can't be sure some of its body armor met safety standards, partly because it didn't do proper paperwork on initial testing of the protective vests, a Defense Department audit said.

Democratic Rep. Louise M. Slaughter of New York, who requested the department inspector general's report, on April 3 demanded the firing of officials responsible. But the Army said the gear is safe and the issue is a disagreement over when and what type of testing is required - principally so-called "first article testing" typically done on a product before a contract is awarded.

The inspector general reviewed $5.2 billion worth of Army and Marine Corps contracts for body armor from 2004 through 2006.

"Specific information concerning testing and approval of first articles was not included in 13 of 28 Army contracts and orders reviewed, and contracting files were not maintained in 11 of 28 Army contracts to show why procurement decisions were made," the report concluded.

"As a result, DoD has no assurance that first articles produced under 13 of the 28 contracts and orders reviewed met the required standards," or that 11 of the 28 contracts were awarded based on informed decisions, it said.

The news wires beat me to the punch on this, but I did find the report on the DoD IG web site if you want to read it for yourself...

I also pinged PEO Soldier for their reaction to the report. Here's what they told me:

Soldier protection is the Army's top priority. Since its initial fielding in 1999, the Army's Interceptor Body Armor has demonstrated superior combat performance in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Many Soldiers are alive today because of it. Prior to issuing body armor to Soldiers, the U.S. Army conducts rigorous and extensive testing to ensure it meets Army standards and is safe for use by Soldiers in combat.

The Army is in full and complete compliance with the FAR, DFAR, source law and current policy in every case concerning body armor procurement.

The fact that the Defense Department Inspector General was not completely able to verify testing and approval of first-article testing or aspects of contracting files does not mean the body armor did not meet specifications.

The Army requires two levels of performance verification prior to acceptance of body armor issued to Soldiers: First Article Test (FAT) and Lot Acceptance Test (LAT). These two test requirements verify that body armor meets U.S. Army standards before being issued to Soldiers and ensure production processes remain in check. The Army's response to the draft report states that first-article testing is a regular and consistent current business practice for purchasing body armor.

The current body armor is doing what it is designed to do: stop or slow bullets and fragments, and reduce the severity of wounds.
Prevention of injuries to our men and women is a top priority for the Department of the Army and the Department of Defense.

IG Report Points:


  • The IG reviewed Army and Marine Corps contracts and orders awarded between January 2004 and December 2006.


  • The scope of the review was limited to reviewing pre-solicitation and the solicitation and evaluation phases of the acquisition process, as well as contracting files related to first-article testing.

DoD IG found:


  • Specific information concerning testing and approval of first articles was not included in 13 of 28 Army contracts and orders.


  • Contracting files were not maintained in 11 of 28 Army contracts to show why procurement decisions were made.


  • DoD has no assurance first articles produced under 13 contracts met required standards or 11 contracts were awarded based on informed decisions.


  • First-article testing is performed before or in the initial stage of production to determine whether the proposed product conforms with contract requirements.


  • Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) allows first-article testing to be waived if the contractor is already producing the item under contract.

Now, I don't like the idea that the Army took shortcuts in testing. But I can understand that the service wouldn't pay for a series of FAT tests if they're contracting for another large buy of the same vest.

When I looked into the Marine Corps armor flaws -- where waivers were issued on specific production lots of armor that government testers believed were flawed -- the rejections did not require a FAT test to verify. In fact, the engineers looked at earlier FAT test data as a benchmark for performance of the new, flawed lots.

Technically, it seems correct that if the Army -- or any service -- is buying a new type of armor, or new components or either with new manufacturing techniques, a FAT test must be conducted. It seems to me on the surface that the Army issued a new contract to the same company -- Point Blank -- for the same vest with the same components and manufacturing technology as previous ones. That shouldn't technically require another FAT test. But, I guess you could argue that it's better to be safe than sorry.

As a commenter on the Military.com story put it:

"Yeah, it's too bad they cut through all the red tape to rush this equipment out to the troops instead of the usual procedure that keeps new gear in the prototype phase until years after the need has passed and the technology has become obsolete."

You can kind of see the guy's point.

-- Christian

Comments

Just DO Remember where this came from kk? < without the final k, cuz i don't give a doggone about that crap!

Resolving the Next-Gen Armor Muddle

All right boys and girls, there’s been a helluva lot of discussion over at Military.com about Dave’s armor design and whether it would work or not work or whatever. Honestly I think part of the problem is that first off it’s over most (not all)of our heads. Second off, Woroner doesn’t want to tell too much about the damned thing out of OPSEC or COMSEC concerns, which makes explanation difficult at best. Imagine trying to explain a lawnmower engine if you couldn't talk about internal combustion, or if pistons were classifed.

Lemme see what I can do to make it make a little sense.

Have you heard about the Boomerang System made by the folks out of Boston? It’s an acoustical sensor system that uses “acoustical entrapment” to quickly and reliably identify the location of a sniper or other shooter that’s putting rounds downrange towards our grunts. It's been on Future Weapons and a couple other shows, has actually deployed to the AOR and apparently works.

Woroner’s system is kind of like that, but it uses light sensitivity to detect incoming projectiles. Sound won’t work, it’s too slow for a system to detect an EFP or whatever and mitigate the blast. You might be able to detect the blast, depending upon the strength of the device and the range, but you damn sure wouldn’t be able to detect it and then take steps to defeat it. Only light and electricity are fast enough to react to something moving at thousands of feet per second, which is why light and electricity are the basis of Woroner’s “barrier system”.

It’s in the high nanosecond, low microsecond range of response, putting a countermeasure out to intercept the incoming weapon and either destroy it or mitigate it by shearing the blast wave off with it’s own blast moving at a reciprocal speed. This is effectively a countermeasure system intended to be used in addition to next-gen armor to reduce or nullify the incoming blast and projectile(s). Let me put it to you the way I had to explain it to Slim, which I think you’ll find is a little simpler than Dave’s explanation.

Some delinquent little bastard in your neighborhood uses a potato gun to launch a spud at your car. You’ve got Woroner’s system mounted on the hood. It detects the incoming spud using light, not sound, and throws out some high tech shit you can’t pronounce let alone explain to intercept it. That stuff is moving at about the same speed as the spud. It hits the potato and slows it down, possibly deflecting it some so that while it still hits your fender, it only hits with the impact of a nerf dart.

Potato-gun launched spud to nerf dart. Makes sense to me. I’d rather get clocked in the head with an orange foam bullet than an Idaho baker any day.

Translate that to the Big Sandbox. Hajji detonates an IED next to a humvee with Woroner’s system mounted on it. Woroner’s system senses the wave of the incoming projectile and puts a radically different defensive measure into play. This measure deflects the oncoming shear waves and ameliorates the remaining overpressure and underpressure events by shear redirection and deflection. Whatever’s left of the incoming projectile and its blast hits the humvee. The crew inside are better off if its up-armored, and better off still if it’s armored in next-gen armor and best of all if they weren't in it to begin with (but that's not really practical now, is it?).

So that’s the deal with his ‘armoring’ system. I can’t tell you any more about it ‘cuz me no speaka da geek and I only understand about half of what he says. If you want to know more, you need to ask Woroner himself, or maybe that fat bearded guy that does the TV advertisements and infomercials. I dunno. I don’t know if you flip a switch, click an icon or piss on the damned dilithium crystals to turn it on, and I couldn’t tell you whether it’s powered by lithium batteries, sparkplugs or a pseudo-Riemannian manifold. What I do know is that if there’s the slightest chance the thing works, and it’ll help our guys come home whole, then somebody somewhere with some mojo needs to check it out and get it some attention. It’s a sad truth that without the lobbyists and pitchmen and assorted high dollar schmoozers the big corporations have, it may not even matter whether it works or not because no one will hear about it.

That’s why I ran the damned article in the first place, and I honestly don’t much give a shit if you agree with him or disagree with him, think he’s a genius or a complete assclown. If we get a debate started about it, generate some dialogue, then maybe something positive will come out of it.

Oh, and about the MRAPs and all that other business – those of you that are bitching about his statements regarding the MRAP are missing the point. He agrees, I agree, Slim agrees, everybody agrees they’re saving lives. That’s not the issue. The issue is we’re going to have to come up with something else to address other missions and other terrains, because it gets stuck and it rolls over and you can’t turn the damn thing around in a narrow street. Unless our next war is waged in the world’s biggest parking lot, then that’s going to cause some problems.

So, hope this clears things up a little bit. If not, then I hope it at least piqued your interest. If you were somehow offended by anything I’ve said, then I’d like to humbly suggest you grow a thicker skin or just don’t subscribe to the damned blog. What kind of fucktard gets offended by an action figure anyway? (Even an action figure as undeniably bad ass and devilishly handsome as I…)

That’s it for now, more to follow.

Swingin’ Dick Out!

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Posted by: aoc gold at May 27, 2008 05:41 AM


In the desert we line tested our own armor--- One out of every ten--- 25 feet--- one round M-16 and one round 9mm. We never broke a plate.

Interceptor--- It is probably not the best, but it works. 10 plus years running.

MICH TC2000--- Best helmet on the market. SPECTRA eat your heart out.

MTV---HAHA Yeah right!!!---I rather put a dress with a corset on. A wonderful, brother-in-law deal which I am sure will be the deaths of many of our soldiers. Takes 20 minutes to put on, weighs 30 plus pounds, and you will probably bleed out by the time the medic takes to take it off of you. I'll take the "outdated" Interceptor, please.

Dragonskin--- I don't know if it is the armor itself or if it is the political dealings to keep it out. Hell, the Special Forces wear it in Iraq.

Remember--- You need to wear what the military gives you... otherwise your SGLI doesn't go to your family after you are dead. We are number$, not people. Nice statement, eh?

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Posted by: The Griff at May 2, 2008 09:45 AM


as a former paratrooper,in vietnam 5/17,67 to 11,19/68, i feel for our man and women serving overseas, i know how they feel about their equipment, since its not up to par, for the job they were sent to do, i wish our elected official would take into account, that one life lost do to faulty equipment is one life to many. from a true patriot,

Posted by: JoseL,Hernandez at April 5, 2008 11:59 AM


Forgot to add, even though i dont think they should be forced to 'stand behind' it, i think it would go along way as a show of faith...i mean, im willing to bet someone from Dragonskin would do it, would the interceptor guys? I understand that with any kind of automated production, some flawed units may come out, but when a flawed unit means a dead soldier in a very real way, it isnt something you can just return and say 'sorry for the mistake, well take care of it' dead is dead, quality control is paramount along with speed of deployment, sacrifice one for the other, and both become a moot point

Posted by: chris at April 5, 2008 02:54 AM


I think anyone claiming that anyone should litterally 'stand behind' the product is making an ill informed statement. HOWEVER that bieng said, I think that with the dragonskin debate, and the advent of "flawed" armor, anyone found knowingly responsible for trying to produce purchase or distribute this kind of product should be tried as a traitor to the fullest extent of military law. (which from my understanding during a time of war, is punishable by death?)

Posted by: chris at April 5, 2008 02:50 AM


Is this more of the blame the victim mentality? Why is it we have all these military suppliers who can't seem to get anything right...unless they are paid $147 for a hammer, or $600 for a toilet seat....?

Further evidence of the rip-off mentality in the corporate sector.

Posted by: M. Thomas at April 4, 2008 09:06 PM


Well, I can't resist "chiming in" here. (preface- perhaps Im carrying some "sour grapes here, and I acknowledge that, but it doesnt change the facts.):::>
Christian knows about "my developments" and obviously would not publicly divulge what we discuss.
The whole thing with both PB and DS kinda goes like this in my "semi educated" mind on how the "MACHINE" grinds....... I have seen the interfacial shear fractures in the Boron Carb inserts, (See Christian discussing "Heat in a container giving rise to destructive onset.) We have also seen the Xrays of the DS. It seems the more one digs into this subject, the more convoluted it gets.
On one side we have "red tape" and on the other, we have "protect the troops now." I can say from personal experience that they (the large companies) somehow "slip through the cracks of red tape" while another smaller group, may have a fantastic system/device to keep our guys safe and they can't get the time of day.......period.
Its entrenched cronyism........ When the "people who decide" get off their collective arses, they will look at the smaller fella with the inovative ideas, and can get them made most likely cheaper and faster than the large corps...

So, my message is simple. Stop ignoring the 100's of brilliant sytems/techniques/devices proferred by the "little brainiac" in his tiny office... Some are not good, but some are fantastic! Lookin' a gift horse in the mouth, and our guys pay for it.

Best, David W (Not the "little brainiac" :)

Posted by: David Woroner Pres Survival Consultants Int'l llc at April 4, 2008 11:55 AM



I guess all those who were claiming during the DragonSkin debate how wonderful the body armor testing process is will be eating their words, right?
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No, I didn't think so.
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But it certainly looks to me that "something ain't right".

Posted by: Wembley at April 4, 2008 05:27 AM


The contracting officer did not make the buy decision. Those who did are the ones that should stand in front of the weapons. (And, I don't even like most contracting officers!)

Posted by: Charlie at April 4, 2008 02:18 AM


Let's be clear, folks. There's a difference between FAT testing and "lot" testing, or "quality assurance" testing (QA). Each new lot of vests has random QA tests done. But not FAT tests, which as you know from the stories on the Dragon Skin testing, is extremely complex and expensive.

Posted by: Christian at April 3, 2008 03:32 PM


I work in the aerospace sector, both civilian and military, and I know how FA testing works in this domain. I can't speak specifically for body armor, but for passenger planes and fighter jets it works like this:

As Christian mentioned - "the same vest with the same components and manufacturing technology as previous ones[,] shouldn't technically require another FAT test" - this IS how it works. After I've completed and FAI/FAT report, every item I ship from that batch as well as all subsequent batches with a time period is contractually required to be exactly the same - within all design specs and requirements. Every part that goes out my door is inspected and tested 100% (NDT obviously) prior to shipping and comes with a "simplified" certification report saying that it does indeed meet the requirements of the FAI/FAT report I completed with the very first part, and now have on file.

If ever there is any change to anything about the part (no matter how insignificant)... a new/amended customer specification, new manufacturing process, substituted materials, or even a lapse in production time (in our case, 24 months since that last completed batch) a new FAI/FAT must be submitted and approved.

Posted by: Kevin at April 3, 2008 03:01 PM


No suprise to me. Troops aint equipped with Dragon Skin anyway so wtf?

Posted by: Deepy at April 3, 2008 02:26 PM


I personally like the idea of any contracting agent who approves the purchase or any Vendor having to personally test any equipment sold to the government. Make the contracting officer stand in front of a weapon and see if they feel satisfied being defended by a vest, or officials from the supplier wear a randomly selected vest stand in front of a firing squad. They survive, they get the contract. Same with the new "mine-proof" vehicles, or fighter plane, or... If the contracting officer or supplying offical will literally stand behind their product, then maybe it is good enough for me to wear or use in combat. Just saying...

Posted by: Seen the Elephant at April 3, 2008 02:22 PM


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