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Hugo's running to Brazil to get FARC, I mean Brazilian support because the real Cloumbian government is now in posession of uraium. That scares Hugo. America is the evil white devil? Whatever. The carrieres amnd destroyers are not all that lurks in those waters . What about the subs?

Posted by: 111 at April 29, 2008 05:58 PM

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Posted by: ELP at April 28, 2008 07:32 PM

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Posted by: ASW at April 26, 2008 05:45 PM

Chavez is such a putz. He isn't a huge threat at the moment. Although if he makes himself a threat it'll be fun to watch us take him out. If he keeps up funding FARC then we'll have a good reason soon enough.

Posted by: jim at April 26, 2008 11:34 AM

"A country cannot be free and safe today if men like him are allowed to go unchecked"

Your right, we shiould be attacking more democratically elected leaders. We can't allow countries to be socialist just because the people want it. And Venezuela is like soooo threatening, right?

Posted by: biohazard at April 26, 2008 07:36 AM

Yea your right how dare we ever attack democratic counties....like germany in ww2
hitler was a socalist democraticaly elected representative.

Wtf ok from now on no one can attack a country unless there attacked first....great in a make believe world that works. In this world take 3 diesel sub load a nuke on it sail one into miami one into los angelis and one into manahattan
the ones headed for manhattan and miami never make it one malfunction and sinks another is sunk by the navy...last one kills 3million ppls in LA

This isnt ww2 this isnt about a damn driveby being nice and politicaly correct now can kill millions. One man and one bomb now has the power of nations.

Isnt it people like you who claim bush faked 911 and rigged elections? If memory serves me venuzualla has state TV. Sence he took power hes been grabbing propperty left and right. Property owned by individuals who didnt want to give it away. When you control TV, radio, and other media outlets you control perception.

Also DC i read a article about these guys in i think it was georgia who have a form of bacteria from cows stomacks that when fully up and running in the next 3 yrs will be able to take any organic compost and turn it into gas

Posted by: James at April 26, 2008 10:10 AM

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Greenpeace wasn't protesting drilling in the Gulf. It was those wonderful condo owners on the beach that trembled at the thought of something happening far offshore and waking up to an oil slick on their beautiful beach. I know, I live on the gulf coast of Florida.

Why didn't we build wind farms off the cost of Cape Cod? Because the rich didn't want to see those big turbine blades spinning off of their million dollar mansions.

I will grant you the tree huggers have fought drilling in Alaska.

But the issues of oil aren't about capacity. It is about speculation and refining capacity. How does two row boats attacking a US chartered merchant ship in the Persian Gulf affect supply and demand? Will the price of oil now go down since the flare up is over? We haven't built a refinery in the US since Hess constructed one in the Virgin Islands. Nobody wants a refinery in their back yard any more than they want a prison or sex offender community. That is why they aren't being built.

The point of Venezuela is that we have given Chavez the power to control his destiny. Just as we have with the terror sponsoring countries of the world. That power is sweet, black, crude oil. It is up to our elected leaders to find ways to minimize that power, which they have not done to date (both right and left).

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Sometimes we just have to ignore countries.
Even if they drive themselves into the ground.
Look at what wonderful things Castro did with Cuba!
Of course Chaves does not have to worry about running his economy into the ground; with control of the oil, the less economy there is, the more his people will be dependant on him for funding.
That power-play worked very well for Saddam.....thirty years of torture and war and all his people could do was complain his check was late.
Of course what else could they do in the face of Russian tanks, German bunkers and French aircraft? Purchased with oil money from our wonderful first world friends.
The left is right when they say it is all about the oil. Just not in the fashion they think....

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Your right, we shiould be attacking more democratically elected leaders. We can't allow countries to be socialist just because the people want it. And Venezuela is like soooo threatening, right?

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Dam shame we cannot tap that Gulf oil which has estimates north of the Saudi Arabia (another joke that is not funny), or maybe Alaska, or maybe Midwest, or maybe???

Funny thou I remember the Eviro's going nuts during the proposed drilling off the FL coast (offshore enough to not be seen from beach) but I cannot recall a single protest about the Chicom drilling off the Keys, or even protest about Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, etc... oil expansion? Wonder why that is, isn't it about the "environment" or something?

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I guess Chavez needs the retoric of "40 million people below the poverty line in America" to keep 4 million Venezulans mind off the fact they do not even have potable water. I guess poverty is all realative.

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Posted by: Old Sailor at April 25, 2008 08:05 PM

And markus why do liberals seem to believe that if a big country like the US smacks down a small bully like chavez were bad. You are fooling yourselves. A country cannot be free and safe today if men like him are allowed to go unchecked. If we dont who will the corupt and toothless UN. Right

Todays world is not your stupid 1800s europe.

So sit in your houses and coffee shops. Ignore the violence and evil around our world or say my my someone should stop that. The UN hmmm....im sure it makes a boy in africa happy to know that though the peacekeepers wont help his family keep from being killed they will write a strongly worded letter to the bad ppls.

Posted by: James at April 25, 2008 08:04 PM

Oh god i have to explain why chavez is a threat. I also love the comment "ignore him" casue we all know ignoring a problem is the best way to make it go away. No chavez by himself is no threat to us. But he spossors terrorism, drug trafficing, and threatins his neighbors when they dare defend themselves.

Think about nato alone say britan isnt all that threatining without its nukes. Throw in US and a few other countries and one of the most powerful entities of all time is represented.

With his oil money hes buying russian and chinese subs, ships, jets, tanks, and guns. His close ties with iran who well is doing pretty much exactly the same and you get a scary scary senario. What is iran was to arm chavez with nukes? And seriously only a retard thinks amadinijad is a peacful citizen and friend of the world.

Point is he is a threat he can become a larger threat in the future(even if socalism is bringing down the production, wealth, life expectancy and culture of what could be a true paradise.) In the capital of venezuala more ppls die a yr than in bagdad.

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Zimbabwe is landlocked. Parking a CVN or two on their border would definitely raise a few eyebrows...

Posted by: A. Nonymous at April 25, 2008 06:56 PM

Venezuela isn't a threat to the US until they decide not to sell us oil. And oil (or more to the point those countries that have it) is the biggest threat to the US right now.

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If we parked a couple of CVNs off the coast of Zimbabwe, would anyone even notice?

Posted by: Rob1855 at April 25, 2008 06:37 PM

Hilary Clinton had a "We will bury you" moment this week, when she stated that she would "obliterate" Iran.

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What is it about Hugo that gets right wingers panties in such a wad? Grow up. This guy means nothing to the US, ignore him.

I don't understand how beating up on smaller, weaker countries give you your jollies.

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Brad is right. Venezuela is no threat to the US; the US certainly is a threat to Venezuela. And Chavez is, like it or not, a democratically-elected leader.

What are we doing about Zimbabwe exactly? Any shows of force there?

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Posted by: John at April 25, 2008 02:04 PM

Oooooo, the Defense Council, between Venezvuela and Brazil? Wow.

If Venezuelan army invaded the US, I don't think they'd last until noon, before we had them all arrested.*

*Thank you, Bismark, for that old joke.

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I'm looking forward to Chavez drawing a "Line Of Death" in the Caribbean somewheres.

Because that worked out so well for Qaddafi when he tried that.

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