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USS Independence, LCS 2, Launched

The second hull-form of the Littoral Combat Ship class was launched a few days ago in the Austal Shipyard in Mobile, Alabama (Mobile is turning into quite the military manufacturing base when you think about these ships and these ships, existing shipbuilding capabilities and the new Air Force tanker).

In%20dock%20prior%20to%20launch.jpgLooking unlike anything that had graced the seven seas, at least with the US Navy, the three-hulled trimaran floated off its blocks in its drydock on 29 April. Further work and outfitting needs to be completed, but from the looks of it, its will be one wild looking ship as it bears down on a pirate dhow off the horn of Africa.

Why do we need these new littoral-capable ships? From the Program Executive Office for Ships:

In developing capability to overcome access denial threats from surface and subsurface threats in the littoral, the Navy sought improved mine warfare capability, an effective counter to small, fast, highly-armed boats, and a ship better suited against quiet diesel submarines. These capabilities highlighted the need for a high-speed, shallow-draft vessel with endurance. The littoral combat ships are designed to meet that need.

Any way you cut it, having this improved and increased capability in the littoral regions close to shore will expand the toolkit available to the Joint Force Commander regarding available military options. I'm looking forward to seeing this new ship at work.

--Pinch Paisley

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Posted by: TJ at July 30, 2008 08:36 AM


It certainly looks impressive. I only hope that someone can figure out how to build them for an acceptable price so this fierce ship doesn't end up being a one off.

Posted by: Steven at July 9, 2008 09:29 PM


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Posted by: V MIller at May 11, 2008 04:31 PM


This ship was toured by a delegation from Israel after it was launched.

Posted by: James W. at May 9, 2008 12:32 AM


You know, if it looks good it probably performs good. LCS2 definitely looks good: cool, menacing, high tech, "don't mess with me"...

Congratulations to the GD and Austal partnership for a job extremely well done!

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"Further work and outfitting needs to be completed"

Let's hope it isn't the 2 years or so the LCS1 has taken-

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Kinda like the aerial tanker role, but with ability to rearm.

Posted by: G at May 5, 2008 09:44 AM


I also hope that General Dynamics gets this. We really need a revolution in naval design. The planform design of the LCS 1 does NOT cut it.

Increased Stealthiness, stability and weapon loads are 3 big reasons why we should go with the Austal/General Dynamics design.

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Posted by: taidan at May 5, 2008 07:12 AM


Hmmm, some weird posts there, aaaanyhow... does anyone have a larger photo of the hull/launch? or a link to one? -thx

Posted by: Trav at May 5, 2008 01:14 AM


The LCS as are all hydro-dynamically supported hulls are sensitive to payload variations. Burying the hull is not expected but surely possible. The T-AGOS is a SWATH type hull of different characteristics. It is NOT the quietest ship in th world the USNS Hayes is.

Large trimarans top out at about 7500 tons. They reach the point were pushing more deadweight across the water tops at high speeds requires huge amount of power. And not they do not have sufficient internal volume to serve as carriers.

Posted by: leesea at May 4, 2008 10:42 PM


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on to the subject at hand...

I would be curious to know what the real advantages of this hull form is vs. a more traditional form. I suspect that this form may be more susceptible to changes in payload or cargo size. I mean, weigh it down too much and the front edge starts to hit the water. But it looks more stable than a traditional ship and certainly has a larger flight deck than other ships of it's size. I'm glad the navy is experimenting with the next generation. If this works out, the next cruiser could be a 25k displacement version. Now, that would be interesting although it might not be able to dock in many harbors.

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Iremember a long time ago 6 to 7 yrs i saw a article in popular mechanics about making trimaian hulled crusiers destroyers and even a huge 800ft long crusier/helicarrier. Wonder if one of those is on the drawing board.

Plus why not build carriers with tri hulls like the man said? I figure carring compacity would have something to do with that but maybe just make it bigger. Anyways just my 2 cents but a ship like this is long overdue its shape and manuvering capabilities make it a far more survivable configuration than the one planned for the (and please dont get me wrong its a retarded ship to me but well need something like it in the future)DDX.

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Posted by: cheung shun sang=cauchy3 at May 4, 2008 05:46 AM


Google "Benchijigua Express"; the LCS-2 is based on a commercial ferry.

Posted by: canoli at May 4, 2008 03:49 AM


Is this a precursor for large-ship trimarans? A trimaran cruiser, maybe? Or how about a trimaran aircraft carrier?

Posted by: G at May 3, 2008 07:45 PM


LCS2 doesn't have a chance of winning. Want to know why? Because Israel said they are only interested in LCS1 and not LCS2. We all know that what Isreal wants, Isreal gets from us. If they don't, then they just steal it. Hence the recent arrests of Isrealis spying on the US.

With friends like Isreal who needs enemies.

Posted by: JK at May 3, 2008 02:48 PM


http://instapinch.com/?p=1085

3 pictures of the ship there. Looks amazing in the water.

Posted by: asdfadf at May 3, 2008 12:21 PM


Not in a good way either(talking about LCS-1 Freedom).

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LCS-2 Independence looks fierce,but LCS-1 Freedom is a hot tranny mess.

Posted by: Roy Smith at May 3, 2008 05:24 AM


I've liked the mean look of this ship the first moment I saw the artist rendering several years ago.

It looks cool, I hope General Dynamics beat the Lockheed designed LCS-1.

Posted by: murc at May 3, 2008 04:23 AM


This is what I thought LCS-1 Freedom was supposed to look like until I saw the pictures of it.LCS-1 looks too "conventional,"this looks promising.I hope it works.

Posted by: Roy Smith at May 3, 2008 03:48 AM


That's one mean-looking ship.

Posted by: G at May 3, 2008 01:48 AM


Yes, interesting and creative. I'd love to look at design drawings of this ship, not just see it cruising. I remember doing drawings for the very special T-AGOS 23 Impeccable some years back, a vessel of roughly similar (twin hull) design. It was a surveillance ship, and GlobalSecurity.org wrote of it: ... this vessel is used by the military to track submarines, and is the quietest vessel the government operates, outside of submarines themselves. The unique hull form is one of the most impressive features of this massive 281-foot vessel.

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