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Posted by: replica seller at November 15, 2008 12:17 AM
front line ally in the war on terror is also keeping osama bin laden alive and kicking inside their territory.
Their hope is obama comes to power and withdraws from afghanistan and they then rename the taliban and let it cease power in Afghanistan and use desperately poor afghan jehadis to stir things up in Kashmir.
I say we declare balochistan an independant country that way we deny china a base in the persian gulf(Gawdar) and cut these jokers down to size.
That's china's strategy keep a half mad country with nukes in the backyard of both India and Japan(Pakistan & N Korea) so that they cannot form a strong explicit alliance in the US.
Let's smash Pakistan once and for all and then together deal with the biggest threat to freedom and democracy in the 21st century together:China.
Strong rumors suggests that the Pakistanis have agreed to sell nuclear warheads to the Saudis in exchange for aid and cheap oil.
I mean this is the country which started Iran's nuclear program by selling them centrifuges and an A bomb design again for money.
Posted by: Shantanu Chatterjee at June 16, 2008 08:44 AM
Take note of freefallingbomb's response:
- 9/11 was an inside job, which eliminates the "glory" that freefallingbomb's heroes achieved in order to cast blame in another direction.
- Extreme anti-semitism.
- References to the US and Israel being national socialists, which is an anathema in those countries. It also makes no sense to refer to Israelis as Nazis.
- A belief that one day all Iraqi citizens will rise and eliminate Coalition forces, which has not happened in six years and shows no sign of ever happening. This is typical hope in militant revolutionary leftists.
Sad to say, I think these examples of delusion are not rare.
Posted by: Smith at June 15, 2008 10:42 AM
To the poster "Pakistani":
The video function in your link is disabled as well. It seems that that video has been removed everywhere. I don't know what's going on. Maybe the U.S. Americans don't want anyone (who hasn't downloaded the video already) to see it anymore, afraid of some potential backlash ... should have thought earlier of that (me too).
About your statement "Lighting such a fire in your back yard is the most idiotic thing imaginable.":
I don't mean to disrespect the few truly patriotic and heroic Muslims fighting in Iraq and in Afghanistan for their countries' liberations and for minimally legitimate governments too, not for some Fata Morgana governments set up by the same Jews and U.S. Americans who committed 11 / 9 themselves to invade the Middle East. But today, on the 14th of June of 2008, the Nazis have already been occupying Iraq for 1.913 days, and Iraq, with it's population of 29.267.000 inhabitants, a country the size of France and awash in weapons, explosives and fighting experience from the former fourth biggest Army in the World and fracticide terrorists etc.etc., has only been able to produce an average of 2,1 dead Nazis per day! And it doesn't even take any fancy Iranian "E.F.P."'s or other contrabanded high-tech crap to annihilate THEM ALL . It doesn't even require any intelligence at all, to be honest! Mathematically it only requires ONE IN EVERY 209 IRAQIS to pick up any old weapon and hit or stab an invader in the face, a single time in all these 5 years, even at the expense of his own life afterwards ( IF it even takes that much... ) ! Is that REALLY asking too much of an entire population of 29.267.000 Iraqis - or even of two, who already lost over a million innocent civilians anyway, and completely in vain? From this angle of view, how do you explain that today there are even any U.S. Americans and "Israelis" still left in the whole Middle East? If you Muslims were made of the same stuff as the proud Vietnamese or even as the Japanese, life would be rosy(ier) for you now!
This isn't what I call War or even "Resistance"... In my country we call that cowardice, collaboration with the enemy, cringing, eternal shame, prostitution, gayness, etc. .
What next: Seeking good relations with "Israel" too?
I'm SOOO sorry for you...
Salem aleikum.
Posted by: freefallingbomb at June 14, 2008 10:49 AM
Jeff thinks the US should ally itself with India "and go nuts on these crazies" [i.e. Pakistan]. Jeff seems to be forgetting that both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers. The guy who calls himself Pakistani on the other hand thinks the problem is that this incident took place inside Pakistani territory. The real problem for both Afghanistan and the US and coalition in Afghanistan is that Pakistan is providing a sanctuary for cross border incursions by the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. A basic tenet of counter insurgency is to deny your opponents such a sanctuary. In short the situation as it stands is intolerable for the US. The difficulty is that the US has no good options. The US and ISAF forces must find a way to break up these sanctuaries or face an insurgency that will bleed them dry in the long run and sap their political will. Pakistan is a reluctant ally but turning it into an active enemy would be a huge gamble.
Posted by: Aussie ArmChairGeneral at June 14, 2008 10:41 AM
Also, the video keeps saying that no "building or post" was hit. The US Gov't says that there were 12 bombs dropped. I don't see a footage of 12 bombs here??? Why don't they show the video of the bomb that hit the Pakistani post???
Posted by: Jose G. at June 13, 2008 11:32 AM
Pakistani,
Nothing is further from the truth than what you said. Math, while applicable, is not the sole or major criterion.
Lightining a fire is not such a bad idea since one can enjoy roasted rebels/insurgents over an open fire.
Agreed, done by the book. USAF put warheads on foreheads.
Posted by: earmeat at June 13, 2008 12:38 AM
good shooting far as i'm concerned.
Posted by: Jimbo Jones
Agreed, done by the book. USAF put warheads on foreheads.
Posted by: earmeat at June 13, 2008 12:38 AM
The US hasn't been able to pacify Iraq (25 million population) in all these years
There are over 10 million armed pushtuns in Fata alone... Overall Pakistan's population is 165-170 million.
Do the math
The situation in Afghanistan hasn't changed in 7 years. You guys could probably stay there for another 5 years, maybe?
While the US is on the other side of the world; these guys live a couple of hours bus ride from us.
Lighting such a fire in your back yard is the most idiotic thing imaginable.
The stupidity of the entire thing is that a policing problem has been allowed to become a never ending armed conflict.
Posted by: Pakistani at June 12, 2008 10:11 PM
the video isn't working (on IE7 or FF).
???
Posted by: murc at June 12, 2008 05:53 PM
One of the precision munitions is off target and hits out of the field of view of the UAV...perhaps that one struck the Pak soldiers.
Unfortunately, it is going to take another 9/11 in the U.S. to 'get serious' about AQ/Taliban in Pak. Whether intentional or not, the Pak govt has allowed the establishment of safe havens for terrorist camps in Pak and only direct US action will keep them on the run.
This administration has miserably failed in the effort to eliminate AQ and Taliban in Pak.
Hell, even Nixon knew the U.S. couldn't allow Cambodia to be a safe haven for NVA and acted accordingly, by launching the 'secret war'.
We need a 'rolling thunder' operation in the FATA now and get it over with...screw world opinion.
The tribals would perhaps realize harboring these fanatics just isn't worth it.
Defending the Afghan border is 'defense'...how 'bout some offense for a change?
Gee, if this was 1944, do you think we'd still be playing footsy with these fanatics?
Posted by: J House at June 12, 2008 02:46 PM
Pakistani,
NATO isn't just trying to stop the taliban.. its also trying to build a nation. Throwing 1000's of land mines along a border causes more problems than it solves.
Posted by: Foreign.Boy at June 12, 2008 01:27 PM
This looks like a ploy by Pakistan to get back at the U.S for accussing members of its government for aiding the Taliban. I wouldn't be supprised if those Pakistani soldiers were killed by Taliban mortor or rocket fire. They're just blaiming it on the U.S to deflect attention away from pro-extremist elements within their own government.
Posted by: C4Casey at June 12, 2008 01:22 PM
Quote {the problem is pakistan they are helping the taliban while taking billions on military aid from us. we should just cut off aid to the pakistanis.}
Then the US would be totally screwed in Afghanistan and will cost them even More then what it's costing them now!
I think Pakistan should deploy the airforce to this area and anything within 1km of of Afghan side should be carefully watched. Any closer then 500 meters should be Eliminated
Posted by: Jose G. at June 12, 2008 12:15 PM
The border is disputed in this region (Durand line).
When the caption says "200 meters inside Afghanistan". Its actually Pakistani territory. Thats the way that specific peak has been seen for a very long time.
10 billion dollars (not aid btw) in the last 8 years is less than peanuts compared to 4 billion; you spend each month in Iraq.
The Pakistani army has lost more troops here than the US has lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
The US cannot keep Afghanistan without Pakistani help. That much is a sure thing.
In my opinion, our status as a front line state is just not worth the bad press and the rest of the BS.
Pakistan should say; Thanks but no thanks. We should fence and mine the border and ask the US to fly in supplies through Russia.
Btw, Karzai is against us fencing and mining the border.
Posted by: Pakistani at June 12, 2008 12:13 PM
Blogmaster, the voice just says about 20 times that there are no structures in the area. This emphasizes the point that the people in the video are not guarding a border crossing like Pakistan says they were.
I say we ally ourselves with India and go nuts on these crazies. India has the man power and we have the technology.
Posted by: jeff at June 12, 2008 11:48 AM
good shooting far as i'm concerned.
Posted by: Jimbo Jones at June 12, 2008 11:47 AM
Maybe the video was taken from a presentation on how to not cause collateral damage?
Posted by: Foreign.Boy at June 12, 2008 11:44 AM
the problem is pakistan they are helping the taliban while taking billions on military aid from us. we should just cut off aid to the pakistanis.
Posted by: slntax at June 12, 2008 11:43 AM
I thought "raw" footage was generally devoid of watermarks and voice-overs.
Posted by: DopplerDave at June 12, 2008 11:37 AM
Why does the narrator care so much about there being no military structures or outposts in the area?
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