From Ares: Aussies prove the 'Varks are still cool
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it is a shame that the F-111s are going to be retired because all it took was for a couple of boffins in the defence force to convince the thed defence minister Dr. Brendan Nelson, someone who has had no military experience at all, that man has truly stuffed Australia as they are replacing the F-111s with F/A-18F Super Hornet fighters until the JSF F-35 Lightning II is completed and the only country that has the Super Hornet is the USA... it makes me wonder why they were the only country to have them as a part of their air force
Posted by: ah ha ha at September 11, 2008 04:26 AM
The reasons the F-111 was retired are for the following reasons in my opinion.
1) The original usage for the F-111 was as a light bomber. Something that was able to sneak in low and fast and hit its targets with precision. The variable geometry wings allowed for greater speed. We are designing more of our aircraft for a dual role as both Air Superiority and a ground attack role, meaning they can fight their way in, hit the target, and fight their way out, something the F-111 could not do.
2) Variable Geometry wings are nice but are being phased out. The only ones left are the Iranian F-14s, and the Russian made Su-24, Mig-23/27s. The design, while nice, has lost to the Delta wing shape.
3) It didn't have stealth and that seems to be what needs to be with every combat aircraft we create from now forward.
Posted by: Ed at August 11, 2008 12:57 PM
"Canada buys Russian kit" is a mis-nomer; the Canadians are just leasing Russian helicopters until it can get its own Chinooks or other helos into the Afghan theatre.
Posted by: Sonic Monkey at August 11, 2008 07:42 AM
Re: Arcane
I'd venture that the maintenance costs are kinda irrelevant if you don't have something to replace it. We're left with just the very tired Prowlers until the EA-18s are produced in sufficient numbers to assume the mission.
It seems to my feeble old brain that we're very much willing to spend a king's ransom in manpower and maintenance for those aircraft we like, e.g., the B-2, but are not willing to do so for others even when they're needed.
Cheers,
Chief B.
Posted by: Old Crusty Chief at August 11, 2008 06:32 AM
F-111s can't protect themselves.
Posted by: 600rr at August 11, 2008 05:33 AM
George HW Bush,Sr.,Bill Clinton,George W Bush,Jr.,Dick Cheney,Donald Rumsfeld,& the rest of the Council for Foreign Relations NWO Neo-Con "Artists" really f**ked us all in the arse when they grossly emasculated our military(which really should be considered an act of treason for what they did).Well the Bear has woken up & is on the move.Today it's Georgia,tomorrow it's Azerbaijan & Turkmenistan.Pretty soon,Russia,with former Soviet Central Asian Shanghai Cooperation Organization member states,Iran,& Pakistan will be able to throw up an effective blockade over Afghanistan.
Posted by: Roy Smith at August 10, 2008 10:13 PM
Chief B.,
None of the above. The maintenance and manpower required to keep them flying was too high, so they retired them. The same reason we retired F-4 Wild Weasels.
Posted by: Arcane at August 10, 2008 03:31 PM
Re: Why did we retire the 'Varks?
Multiple choice:
a. Cold War Victory Dividends/Santayana's Syllogism
b. Petty Politics
c. Boys-in-Blue Craving New Toys
d. Kreskin's Theorem ("In the future...")
e. Ignorance
Choose one of the above reasons for decommissioning the F-111/EF-111 and defend your position in 250 words or less. Points will be deducted for histrionics, shoddy grammar, and poor spelling.
Cheers,
Chief B.
Posted by: Old Crusty Chief at August 10, 2008 07:43 AM
Re: Georgia
I think that "our bad" is just the opposite of what you ought to be thinking, Christian.
The Georgians, unlike the Russians, are friends and allies that we ought to be doing everything we can to help. Is there any doubt that the Kremlin has fomented this rebellion by Ossetia and Abhazia? Or that Putin and his thralls are doing there best to rebuild the Soviet empire?
It's a pity that the West has no balls to deal effectively with Putin. Georgia is just the latest in the meatgrinder. Who's next?
Cheers,
Chief B.
Posted by: Old Crusty Chief at August 10, 2008 07:23 AM
Is it just me, are or Varks just flat out sexy.
Posted by: Curtis at August 9, 2008 11:57 PM
You realise that the Aussies are retiring the F-111s? That was their last conversion course for aircrew.
I'm glad that I've seen them do several dump-and-burns, it's a great stunt.
http://www.airforce.gov.au/aircraft/f111.htm
it is a shame that the F-111s are going to be retired because all it took was for a couple of boffins in the defence force to convince the thed defence minister Dr. Brendan Nelson, someone who has had no military experience at all, that man has truly stuffed Australia as they are replacing the F-111s with F/A-18F Super Hornet fighters until the JSF F-35 Lightning II is completed and the only country that has the Super Hornet is the USA... it makes me wonder why they were the only country to have them as a part of their air force
Posted by: ah ha ha at September 11, 2008 04:26 AM